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Re: League sucks atm... - xXBehinderungXx - 2010-11-19

ya, if the playerpool would be bigger, we could make a skilldepending league

would be epic, every game like a internal one *dreams*


Re: League sucks atm... - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-11-19

xXBehinderungXx Wrote:ya, if the playerpool would be bigger, we could make a skilldepending league
What The Fuck? In the beat we had about 3500 registered players (dont know how much double/tripple-accounts, but I dont think too much).

This is a crazy high playerpool. BT is NOT and NEVER dota!


Re: League sucks atm... - xXBehinderungXx - 2010-11-19

ähm you know how much bigger the general palyerpool in is in SC II ?
and it was 6k players because of about 80k games

but only a couple of hundret where really activ so....^^

i could imagine if bt sc II is gonna kickass, the palyerpool could be 10-20 times the size!


Re: League sucks atm... - FirePhoenix - 2010-11-19

The intern games are also public games...in every intern game are 2-3feeders, no stun, no rush the CP's, no take off the hit points etc...blablabla
It's so boring against publics/noobs or with publics/noobs :x

I hope SC2 will be much better...


Re: League sucks atm... - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-11-19

xXBehinderungXx Wrote:ähm you know how much bigger the general palyerpool in is in SC II ?
and it was 6k players because of about 80k games

but only a couple of hundret where really activ so....^^

i could imagine if bt sc II is gonna kickass, the palyerpool could be 10-20 times the size!
The playerpool and the currently display of "map is played per hour XYX times" is bugged and too high. Take a look on sc2 mapstars, there it stands. Dont give a shit and dont make sc2-BT better then the currently BT is. That is important, bcause you will be horribly disapointet by too high expactations.


Re: League sucks atm... - Frechheit - 2010-11-19

Well cant be bad like the current Situation.^^

Just look at my last games then u can see.^^

Well its okay.


Re: League sucks atm... - Frechheit - 2010-11-19

Maybe try base the balance on Stats and not on wins/lose.


Re: League sucks atm... - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-11-20

Frechheit Wrote:Maybe try base the balance on Stats and not on wins/lose.
Stats depends VERY on your teammates. Why? Feeder -> Feeded people who kill you.

The balance works nice at it is now.


Re: League sucks atm... - Frechheit - 2010-11-20

Ger-Dyers-Eve Wrote:
Frechheit Wrote:Maybe try base the balance on Stats and not on wins/lose.
Stats depends VERY on your teammates. Why? Feeder -> Feeded people who kill you.

The balance works nice at it is now.

Really then look up my Games please. Thats nice?


Re: League sucks atm... - Frechheit - 2010-11-20

And please remember that may skill of playing is in a another world than yours.


Re: League sucks atm... - ICE2607 - 2010-11-20

ofc base them on stats..
i dont understand how totaly noobs can win 3 or 4 games in a row,
having always 85 % or a bit more and if they are with me in a team, play bullshit gameplay like never seen before.
this is soooo annoying. heli with 1 bombard and 2 electro cannons.... no hull.. 26 mins passed.
he was a free-kill and pissed me very hard...
some player dont have a clue how this game work.
last game, one player feeded after 5 mins 11 times. this guy had 1513 points. ridiculous !!!
his stats 6:11 http://league.btanks.net/player.php?playerid=112
what the fuck is wrong with this guy ?!
can we pls seperate the noobs from the really good player or average ?!
most of my lost games i have lost because there was a noob, minimum one ....
god damn it


Re: League sucks atm... - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-11-20

Frechheit Wrote:And please remember that may skill of playing is in a another world than yours.
Hey come on, there is no reason for your arogance. This type of thinking "wah... noobs every where, i am the real pro" destroys IMO the idea of league totally. You dont want to play with us? Then dont play league.


Re: League sucks atm... - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-11-20

ICE2607 Wrote:can we pls seperate the noobs from the really good player or average ?!
We had this Elo1550+-Bot but there were no full games....


Re: League sucks atm... - ICE2607 - 2010-11-20

Ger-Dyers-Eve Wrote:
Frechheit Wrote:And please remember that may skill of playing is in a another world than yours.
Hey come on, there is no reason for your arogance. This type of thinking "wah... noobs every where, i am the real pro" destroys IMO the idea of league totally. You dont want to play with us? Then dont play league.
u dont have skill ? then dont play with us on league ...
Ger-Dyers-Eve Wrote:
ICE2607 Wrote:can we pls seperate the noobs from the really good player or average ?!
We had this Elo1550+-Bot but there were no full games....
fuck the ELO ... i wanna have balnce based on stats.
noobs could be detected after 1 (one) game !! the first one ! having stats 4-24 but won because another one punished the other team
not after 10 games, 9 lost and 1 won because pro joined and killed everything so he couldnt die fast enough to destroy the game


Re: League sucks atm... - Frechheit - 2010-11-20

Ger-Dyers-Eve Wrote:
Frechheit Wrote:And please remember that may skill of playing is in a another world than yours.
Hey come on, there is no reason for your arogance. This type of thinking "wah... noobs every where, i am the real pro" destroys IMO the idea of league totally. You dont want to play with us? Then dont play league.

1) Its not arrogance its fact that i am much better than you.
2) When i would think that what u are trying to implement in me i wouldnt have played league until today.
3) Right with this answer i wont play league anymore because its a waste of time until some major points will be changed.
4) did you looked up my games and you think its balanced?


Re: League sucks atm... - ICE2607 - 2010-11-20

right now, there is no balance onto league...
its all based on luck who get the bigger noobs. thats a fact too.
i like the thoughts about balancing a game on the kill-death-rate.


Re: League sucks atm... - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-11-20

Frechheit Wrote:4) did you looked up my games and you think its balanced?
I had really NO balanced game until now, just because of the wide range of playerskills. There are noobs, there are adepts, there are average players, there are goods players and there are players, I dont want to have as enemies, because I know, that I will lose this game with my team, just because they kill everyone very fast.

A League is just for EVERYONE, dont know if you know that. But if you dont want to play THIS league anymore, where EVERYONe can play, just pick up good players and build up your own league. Nobody forces you to play with a hugh load of noob-average players.


Re: League sucks atm... - ICE2607 - 2010-11-20

http://league.btanks.net/player.php?playerid=344
this guy is totaly balanced.
i hope this skilled player will play vs me so i can get rapped...
watch ELO and watch average ....
there are alot of such players that have unbalanced stats ..

http://league.btanks.net/player.php?playerid=120
here is a player with bad ELO so he would be combined with better ELO for good balance..
pathetic....


Re: League sucks atm... - xXBehinderungXx - 2010-11-20

I know that its al bugged, BUT its a fact that the fun player poolis WAY bigger that the wc3 funmap playerpool

And redgarding the interns, its right that some are really feeders, and have no clue how to build a good tank, how to use port to help and not to steal, rush if player buys tanks, but atleast the avarage skill level is higher and due to teamspeak the games are relativly coordinated.


Re: League sucks atm... - AGGInator - 2010-11-20

why do you blame the balance system?
a system that works fine with couple of games played only.
it can't balance quite will if the requirements aren't set.
just wait if everyone is near 50 games and u'll see it will work better like it does in beta.