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Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - bangyouredead - 2008-09-02
I was just thinking about how all tanks have the passive cannon ability, besides titan i believe, and how it does the same amount of damage, whether its an 800 gold tank or an infernal. Anyone think this should be changed? With every other ability, the more expensive the tank the better the abilities get, except for one ability which always remains the same (cannon damage). Seems reasonable to me to increase the damage or speed of the cannon for each tank as the price of the tank increases. For larger tanks, especially infernal or sky fortress, it doesnt make much sense to even level up the cannon, as it does such little damage at later stages in the game, and results in a waste of a good spot for a better ability. If the damage was upped, maybe people would choose this ability sometimes instead of ignoring it...p.s. how do i make a poll???
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - TKF - 2008-09-02
If a tank cannon gets better for even better tank, it need less weapons and tanks becomes even more imba then weapons again. Also the tank becomes less dependant on weapons this way. I only support this if all better tanks also get additional pricy. Otherwise I'm against it.
Exodus Wrote:... It's true that the tank cannon on more expensive tanks seems less efficient, than on the first ones. But is there really a need to change it? Do you feel the tanks are too weak because of their tank cannons? It's one of those cases, where I think that the work is not worth the trouble....Tanks is not to weak cuz of they cannons. They have a lot of HP and strong abilities. Also the TC skill is considered as a 800 gold weapon bonus, which causes the tank to have stronger firepower without increasing it's bounty too mention 1 important element...
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - k-bones - 2008-09-02
I think you're worrying too much about some imbaness, but it there won't be any. When you take infernal creeps have about 2k hp, so even lvl5 cannon is not a big deal. Unfortunately we are probably both right
, because TC's are too weak, yes, but making them stronger won't change anything. Therefore I suggested giving SF and INF some cool passives.By the way, this topic is doubled, please close and proceed to the former one.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - bangyouredead - 2008-09-02
TKF I see what youre saying, not sure what Exodus meant. My point was more along the lines of no one using the tank cannon for larger tanks. If the cannon damage was increased and made EQUAL to other abilities, then people might choose passive cannon upgrade instead of an equally powerful other ability. As it is now, no one does that for bigger tanks as it is soo weak in comparison to the other skills, and the cannon becomes basically useless.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - Prog - 2008-09-02
bangyouredead Wrote:As it is now, no one does that for bigger tanks as it is soo weak in comparison to the other skills, and the cannon becomes basically useless.
I do skill tank cannon with infernal everytime max, before I skill the chaos teleport higher than 1 and the other passive skill. I skill tank cannon with SF as well.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - horselance - 2008-09-03
Does anyone take banish instead of TC? I dont think... Tank Cannon is powerful enough for every tank.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - Prog - 2008-09-03
horselance Wrote:Does anyone take banish instead of TC? I dont think... Tank Cannon is powerful enough for every tank.
Banish is indeed the most useless skill in battle tanks and should be reworked/buffed somehow.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - bangyouredead - 2008-09-03
Prog Wrote:bangyouredead Wrote:As it is now, no one does that for bigger tanks as it is soo weak in comparison to the other skills, and the cannon becomes basically useless.
I do skill tank cannon with infernal everytime max, before I skill the chaos teleport higher than 1 and the other passive skill. I skill tank cannon with SF as well.
As far as banish, for the other posts, yeah that is basically worthless to me and I NEVER use it. And yes inder for a teleport i see whyd youd only up that to level one, however the thing about teleport is that generally people dont use it for the damage, they use it for the tele and stun, so it doesnt matter much whether its level 1 or 5. You really can't say that for any other ablitlies, at least i can't think of any like that...Once you get past 10k tanks the tank cannon is usually worthless...Also inder, you mean the chaos servants passive? I always like upping those as well as lava servants for demon, theyve got a lot of hp/damage...
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - k-bones - 2008-09-04
Does anybody remember that I suggested reworking chaos tp? :S
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - Prog - 2008-09-04
k-bones Wrote:Does anybody remember that I suggested reworking chaos tp? :S
I think chaos teleport is good as it is, no need to rework it.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - AntiLEGION - 2008-09-04
May increase the Tank Cannon only for Frost Tank and above (those Tanks which need requirements in Normal Mode).
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - DerSatan - 2008-09-05
Prog Wrote:horselance Wrote:Does anyone take banish instead of TC? I dont think... Tank Cannon is powerful enough for every tank.
Banish is indeed the most useless skill in battle tanks and should be reworked/buffed somehow.
maybe add a silence to its effect. but buffing the banish should only happen when the new (more) requirements are set to standard i think.
demon tank rules the normal mode most of the time anyway.
to the tank cannon: i dont think a change is needed, but i wouldnt mind to give the very expensive tanks something else.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - k-bones - 2008-09-05
that's what I'm trying to say all the time.
Re: Increasing passive cannon damage for bigger tanks - horselance - 2008-09-05
Titan dont have TC right?
Infernal dont need other ability because it is strong enough and buffing wont be good.
Sky Fortress is powerful enough with its abilities too.
Cant say Frost Robot is powerful enough, maybe its tank cannon can be morphed to other ability.