2011-07-30, 08:07:13
El_Pollacco, those wrecked economy weak players you were talking about earlier are the same "noobs" that toyboatt said should not be kicked. I request you call them as such rather than avoiding dicussion about the merit in kicking weaker players.
Anyway it seems like the problem toyboatt brought up in this thread is the ability, or rather in-ability to kick "moving -giveup afkers" which is behavior largely encouraged by the current penalty system. I myself will admit that I am guilty of this crime on occasion. I will say that I actively try to play out all of my games (even losing ones) to the end, for the sake of sportsmanship. However, as a human excrutiating circumstances might cause me to make the decision to become one of these types of afkers. That being said it's hardly any excuse for such behavior, and I should be kickable just like anyone else who refuses to play the game in the middle of the game. Olivercamel said that toyboatt's solution of allowing enemy team members to vote was a bad idea and I agree for the same reasons he posted. I would instead like to propose this:
-Measure afk time based not on tank action but rather weapon's firing (or something like that). If thats to hard perhaps a timer measuring the last time any creep/tank was killed by a given player. Althend also brought up the Low-APM based kick some time ago which I would like to suggest again. I would also like to suggest that kick points add up slower, so that someone who played well but just died like 4 times consecutively isn't kickable, but also decay slower so that 0 12 do-nothings(0-12 with 24A should be recognized as unkickable of course) are kickable since right now slow and steady deaths aren't recognized by the system.
Anyway it seems like the problem toyboatt brought up in this thread is the ability, or rather in-ability to kick "moving -giveup afkers" which is behavior largely encouraged by the current penalty system. I myself will admit that I am guilty of this crime on occasion. I will say that I actively try to play out all of my games (even losing ones) to the end, for the sake of sportsmanship. However, as a human excrutiating circumstances might cause me to make the decision to become one of these types of afkers. That being said it's hardly any excuse for such behavior, and I should be kickable just like anyone else who refuses to play the game in the middle of the game. Olivercamel said that toyboatt's solution of allowing enemy team members to vote was a bad idea and I agree for the same reasons he posted. I would instead like to propose this:
-Measure afk time based not on tank action but rather weapon's firing (or something like that). If thats to hard perhaps a timer measuring the last time any creep/tank was killed by a given player. Althend also brought up the Low-APM based kick some time ago which I would like to suggest again. I would also like to suggest that kick points add up slower, so that someone who played well but just died like 4 times consecutively isn't kickable, but also decay slower so that 0 12 do-nothings(0-12 with 24A should be recognized as unkickable of course) are kickable since right now slow and steady deaths aren't recognized by the system.
