ban approval discussion

[archer-war]

hey hey hey
we try to be fair when we decide to ban someone.......
if we decide to ban the person who wrote the ban request we got our reasons for that decision
i try to take care of the gameplay of every single player in a game.....
but sometimes "special" persons got an "approved", not because of that single game, they got an approved because of some games before
We hate players who just farm/ flame/ insult/ command.......
Sometimes its very annoying if someone just tell his mates what to do next, that is very annoying! Don't be surprise,if your mates flame you, because you cant stop giving orders to them!
We want to play btanks and we hate to read the chat all game long !

Some people should know who is demanded now

I don't see why this post was written at all. No sign of who is it directed to or anything. I'll comment it, considering that Tez.Sick read my post in same thread.

"we try to be fair when we decide to ban someone......."
- sometimes (like in case of me, dirtyterror and le_castor vs rateng2) you don't succeed.

"if we decide to ban the person who wrote the ban request we got our reasons for that decision
i try to take care of the gameplay of every single player in a game.....
but sometimes "special" persons got an "approved", not because of that single game, they got an approved because of some games before "
- are you serious? How do you try to take care of the gameplay of EVERY SINGLE player? By the way, if you did, you would approve ban request of rateng2, and would consider our flaming/insults reasonable.

"We hate players who just farm/ flame/ insult/ command.......
Sometimes its very annoying if someone just tell his mates what to do next, that is very annoying! Don't be surprise,if your mates flame you, because you cant stop giving orders to them!"
- I don't just farm, I don't just insult (only with a reason), I don't just command (I command when it is necessary). Sometimes it is very annoying? Well, then let a player, who goes for a kill in time of hard CP defence be annoyed. Like his feeling of annoyment is something sacred. If someone does bullshit in terms of teamgame, and others tell him what to do, well let him be annoyed - those who command him, they are annoyed too, you know. If we start care about the feelings of "annoyed" farmers-only and tinkers till minute 50, then Battle Tanks is unplayable. All good job of the rest of team doesn't matter.

"Sometimes its very annoying if someone just tell his mates what to do next, that is very annoying!"
- Sometimes its very annoying of someone just go farms instead of CP defence, that is very annoying. But we, as it seems from your post, not supposed to tell him what to do in order to not raise a feel of annoyment in him. How about our feel of annoyment?

"We want to play btanks and we hate to read the chat all game long ! "
- And again. If you read logs only, then you can't make judgement about players behaviour. You punish only chat bad behaviour, but at the same moment you don't punish in-game extra-ultra-bad behaviour. Because you don't see it.

Once again, either watch all the games concerning certain players (if it's not done, you can not judge again, because often roots of behaviour of certain players are in past games (and probably very long time ago)), or don't ban anyone. I don't think, that you are gonna watch all the replays concerning certain players, well, then don't ban anyone. At least unban me, dirtyterror and le_castor (not after a week, but asap) - because you banned us for our reactions (in chat) to rateng2's actions (in game), which left unpunished. And please, don't push these formalities like "writing a new thread with an unban request from a forum guy with a nickname similar or "close" to..." and so on - because the bans (and not-ban) were not appropriate.

By the way, games are destroyed not by flamers and insulters (unless they do it without a reason or towards a novice player) - they are destroyed by those who are not-noobs, but pose their actions for their own (not teams') sake. Sometimes they even directly sabotaging.

For example, in my ban request i wrote:
"Game 27732: http://league.btanks.net/game.php?gameid=27732

Player: rateng2 (1)
Reason: sabotaging the game. At least, sabotaged my (in the beginning I have sold Basic Magic to get hull and said "team plz don't buy it". Few seconds later he bought it and didn't sell back after I told him to. (Bu the way, after he got it he became a heli with 5 Basics and hull, so later had to sell Basic back to get new item. One more prove it was to hurt me). It all has to do with previous games, where I performed better then him. He sabotaged my game)."

And eSVau wrote that it is an invalid request. What, sabotage is invalid? And flaming in response to sabotage is valid (by the way I didn't flame in that case I only said that I'm gonna ban request him)?
You may say that "buying a weapon from junkyjard is not a sabotage and it's fully allowed". Not in this case. He got jealous to my greater than his playing in past games, which he considered to be my inventory's merit. So he bought all the same things this game to prove that. I wrote to him that he failed, because my creep kills with the same items were 50 more. And soon when I sold a Basic and told team to please not buy it, he bought it. It is not sabotage?

eSVau, you will definetely see this and my previous post, so reply. And do the unbans, please.

By the way, if you still consider buying from junkyard after I asked to not buy something allowed, then ask yourself this. How many anti-team actions are formally permitted then? Going mid and buying bows only till full slot for tinker and staying like that till minute 40? Watching a mate airship duelling other teams' airship and sending a heavy tank rocket at last moment to get the kill? Pushing the lane till enemy's base when CP is being attacked? And after all these actions permitted, you want to ban for insults and flame, which are spawned by those actions? Maybe reconsider your ban politics?