Compare between Shortrange and Longrange

[EarthR]

Im not really sure why I am posting here it already has been said that perfektionist's suggestions won't happen. Anyhow demo is slow but he has mines, LR got almost no HP so they can't risk going on the offensive against a Demo. Medivac is good against LR purely because of speed, healing is too unreliable to count on for LR defense your main advantage is speed offense. The best counter to LR is the good old heli, your fast and you have a stun which enables you to get in range. If you have good coordination anti-grav might work with leap+stun.

I disagree with LR being a problem on lane. I personally don't like playing lane but when I am forced to do so I always notice the LR guy failing (both myself and/or the enemy). The thing is if you make just 1 mistake with LR on lane you are screwed. If the enemy is a speedy flying rodent like a heli/medivac/airship then LR is even more risky to play on sides.

The only time I find LR pawning on lane is when the enemy does abit of risky "hardcore saving" with no HP and 2 basics. If someone chooses this risk then IMHO they deserve to die.

actually medi has disadvantage against a lr user. it has no stun and its speed isnt that great to begin with if the range user can play well he will use the creep advantage and at start nothing can beat the creep advantage, if i have more damage and kill your creep faster the med cant get near me.
Heli is a good counter but heli has low start hp so after first 5 min you have to buy a hull

As for the other issue lr being a problem in lane i totally disagree.
THe ranger can only bring himself to disadvantage if he keeps buying lr at lane there is a difference between knowing how to play something and overusing it so it backfires at you. the biggest advantage you get is that you can get tank fast and creep better than your enemy and thats all you have to use it for or change from lr to mid range after 5 min. anything else and you it will backfire

and about the "hardcore saving" as you call it it all comes down to the user that does it. there are some who know hwo to play with no hp and there are other who simply doesnt. Same applies to all range weapons. The skill makes the difference not the other way around. thats why most range users at lane fail later on they get some advantage at start and then they dont know how to use that advantage