New Item: [Targeting Module]

[horselance]

Targeting Module - 2000 gp

This item is either made of a spellbook or works with text commands.
It draws a circle of your specified range around your tank visible to only you. --I attached a screenshot that i made.
It can have 550-600-700-750-800-900-950-1000-1050 and 1300 ranges in spellbook which you can change between and an on/off button.
Or, it can be with text commands like "-tm 1300" "-tm off".
If it works with commands, it can have an upgrade which increases its range from 1300 to 3500 for another 2000gold.

This can be very useful for newbies which can't detect range easily and useful for pros to keep perfect ranging, avoiding long range, avoiding exploders and teleporters.
What do you think about item and the price?

[horselance]

I forgot to attach demonstration.

[koshen]

Woah ... I can't overstate how good of an idea this is.Noobs would want it because it would help then survive greatly. They could set it to range of their own weps. Or their enemies. Pros will avoid it because of the price, the unnecessary increase in bounty, the fact that it takes an item slot and the fact that they're probably range literate already. There should also be a noob mode where everyone gets one of these at start for free.

However at 2000 gold I think it's over priced for even noobs to consider. How about 750.

The implementation could be an issue though, I'm not sure constantly redrawing circles around a moving unit is very efficient.

[SCorpA1]

i think its a good training item but in clan wars etc stuff like this shouldnt be avaible, because its skill to hold the range

[Althend]

I vote to make it an item. Then it would be a waste of slot for pro ^_^
Give it a price of 1000 gold at least. Or implement it inside a special noob mode because making it a command would make bt too easy.
Another idea would be to make it cost 500 gold but reduce your gold of 1 per sec.

[ChronicStoned]

its a great idea!!!
i think everyone will like this.
the question is now how to implement this
-item(which price?)
-command
-only in "noob mode"(if there will be such a mode)

[horselance]

Or, it can be with text commands like "-tm 1300" "-tm off".

I meant it is still same item but range is modified by text commands instead of clickable options. It is not a free option. It can be free command in a noob mode (though we dont have such a mode yet).

So you think this item is not so important and must be cheaper, mostly because it will cost inventory space... So it can be 1500gp. But I think it can be essential item. Maybe it can be conbined with some stuff and release inventory slot. Like Radar or mine defuse pack or maybe with one of hulls to Defensive Pack.

I tried it with 0.03 sec cooldown and it did not disturb game speed (you can check it with map i sent). But dont know how it will effect original map. Exodus must give it a try first.

[Dr.McNinja]

Ive had a similar idea i havent written, anyway...

I think judging distances is a critical part of skill in btanks. With this item, even temporarily, you are granted 'skill'. Thats the way i see it and its kinda like using hero only weapons cough noobmagic. Then again, its a completely subjective thing and very hard to pin a number to and as such, the cost will be hard to make fair or balanced. By this i mean, how much is seeing the exact range of your weapon/s worth? Its defenitly worth MORE the longer the range is i.e. long range 1300 weapons such and noobmagic and rocket packs.

Moving on, my idea for the range showing would be a blur that represents the main ranges of your weapons combined but i would not know how to produce this game mechanic. It could be done with the hero aura. I thought of this as an aid, and this blur would only appear in the direction of the tank. Advanatge would be having weapons of similar range for a more accurate range-blur. Hmm?

As a specific skill for a tank, it could work like a 'radar' by highlighting tanks that are near or inside the weapons range.

Since horselance didnt say more about what he wanted the item/ to be like here are some suggestions (apart from those i have mentioned above):
- Limited duration / fade
- Specific only to tanks, eg. shows range-marker in relation to enemy tanks
- Only shown in an area near the front of the tank, larger arc with more cost (instead of a full 360° range-marker ring)
- As item; cast on enemy tank to draw a connecting line that also displays distance information above enemy tank. Could also be a skill
- As mode; al tanks have or can activate the range ring

As you can tell im strongly opposed to the range ring but am not opposed to the idea entirely. I just think it takes a big part of btanks away.
Also, as a mode, i think it could work well, not as an item as its use is very situational (eg. your range is 49 more than their's; you want to hit them without them hitting you).

[Prog]

The problem is, that it might cause huge lag problems.

[BENNIE.FM]

in most cases money will not be a problem because most of the time people are playing 5k hb ..but i will hate to see this put into the normal bt game....should just a be mode so people can use it.......holding ur range knowing ur range is one of the best skills in bt

[DerSatan]

Or implement it inside a special noob mode because making it a command would make bt too easy.

It is not a free option. It can be free command in a noob mode

in most cases money will not be a problem because most of the time people are playing 5k hb ..but i will hate to see this put into the normal bt game....

Anyone thinking what i think? :lol:

[horselance]

It can be allowed/banned or given as start item which cost 0 gold (this can be "newbie mode" with some other add-ons).
Anyway why did i call it targeting module... It should have been "Range Module".

[qweqqweq]

i think that's a really cool idea. i wonder if exo will like it enough to implement it.

[GooglyBoogly]

+1.

[Velocity2k]

Just implement it in a noob mode and not in the normal modes. And btw. rename hb to noob mode

[Exodus]

What about this, I make a singleplayer command out of this, so new players can pratice with this against bots and get a feeling for the gameplay. Oh and btw, since the weapon ranges are already saved within the map for the bots, it's possible to implement a dynamical range indication, based on the weapons you are currently using.

[Dr.McNinja]

Ah, practice is a good use for it. It would be good as a first step to see if this idea can or should be taken further.

[horselance]

+1

[benben10]

what exodus mentioned is exactly what i was thinking right before i read his post. if you didnt already know, in single player there are commands for free gold and free exp. points (click on the info button and look at the player commands). having this as another command to help trying things out and practice with. if this does get implemented, here is a tip on how to use it: stand next to map objects like trees and find other objects that are at a specific distance. find landmarks you can use when in multiplayer.

[qweqqweq]

I'm going to stick to using my Secret Cybernetic Advanced Targetting Module Chip (SCATMC) in my bio-mechanically engineered brain.

see, the way it works is that when i get in range of a target my weapons start to fire and that's how my SCATMC knows i'm in range so it tells me to stop. if my target moves my SCATMC can detect that and it tells me also move to the left, i move to the left. if my target goes up my SCATMC tells me to go up. if my target telleports south east my SCATMC tells me to telleport shouth east. it's amazing!