How bout a little competition ^^

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How bout a little competition ^^

Postby xplodingtinkftw on Wed 03 Feb 10, 17:32

So I saw this video on youtube where some guy plays 1v5 comp on normal, basically he just plays 5 comps on normal and sees what time he can win in. In his video his time was 17:55. I thought it was a pretty interesting idea so I gave it a shot. After a couple of tries I got a time of 13:14. I did some dumb stuff and wasted some time by dying : ( so my time can obviously be improved.

Anyways I think it would be fun to have a little contest in the forums see how low the time can get, or some other variation (etc 1v1 comp 1v2 comp etc... get the most godlikes in 20 min etc...). Not only does this give us a chance to show off our skills ^^, but it can also show some newer players or guys who want to get better some techniques that could improve their game.

Please feel free to critique, advise, or any share any other input you might have.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Prog on Wed 03 Feb 10, 18:17

9:41 in the 4th try, but i think it's possible to be at least 1 minute faster.

€: i just noticed: i played league, not normal, but i guess its not a big difference, or?
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Prog on Wed 03 Feb 10, 18:47

It's normal this time and 8:45, however i messed up at the beginning and died, so there is still potential to be faster.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby khEg on Wed 03 Feb 10, 19:18

I cant open your replays prog .. it says the map "btanks8.67f~1.w3x is needed..

wtf? ^^
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Prog on Wed 03 Feb 10, 19:28

I had 2 btanks 8.67f, seemed i used the wrong one (it should be just the filename as i downloaded all my f versions from bnet hosts). I guess it should be enough to copy & rename the map, but maybe i've found some strange versions in bnet so i'll upload it here (i doubt it as I only play on the clanbots normally).

btw, I can't open xlpodingtinks replay^^

€: I just tested it. My Btanks867f~1 is the same as xplodingtinks Btanks867f. After renaming my ~1 map to 'Btanks867f' i could play xplodingtinks replay. My other Btanks867f map must be somehow different. Renaming your map to 'Btanks867f~1' should be enough to make my replays work.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby xplodingtinkftw on Wed 03 Feb 10, 21:29

@prog nice replay, what a great time : ) , i didn't even think to use tech mech to purchase items for me, that's a real time saver. Hopefully more members will try, if nothing else then to show their approach.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby sam_ach on Thu 18 Feb 10, 00:19

here my first try^^ i think i didnt that bad^^ but there is a lot potential if i compare it to progs time^^

edit: my time was about 13min 30 sec
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby jonjon on Tue 09 Mar 10, 09:29

lol 8.67.

I got 8:33 on 8.65. :lol:
http://www.filefront.com/15751041/833.w3g


I just played 8.67f.
I got 7:55 thereabouts. I'll post when someone beats 8:33. haha
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby eSVau on Tue 09 Mar 10, 14:16

jonjon wrote:lol 8.67.

I got 8:33 on 8.65. :lol:
http://www.filefront.com/15751041/833.w3g


I just played 8.67f.
I got 7:55 thereabouts. I'll post when someone beats 8:33. haha


This forum support attachments :P

but i cant watch your replay, missing map (BTanks865.w3x) even though i've owning every offical version :shock:
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby jonjon on Tue 09 Mar 10, 15:10

eSVau wrote:
jonjon wrote:lol 8.67.

I got 8:33 on 8.65. :lol:
http://www.filefront.com/15751041/833.w3g


I just played 8.67f.
I got 7:55 thereabouts. I'll post when someone beats 8:33. haha


This forum support attachments :P

but i cant watch your replay, missing map (BTanks865.w3x) even though i've owning every offical version :shock:


here you go. :)

BTanks865.w3x
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby eSVau on Tue 09 Mar 10, 16:41

i placed it in folder "maps/downloads" if that makes a difference.

There's the issue, my folder is called just "download" without plural s - i wonder if you are using mac os :shock:

Nice money making :shock:
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Prog on Wed 10 Mar 10, 16:58

jonjon wrote:I just played 8.67f.
I got 7:55 thereabouts. I'll post when someone beats 8:33. haha


post it, even tho it's not faster than 7:39 ;P

(btw it is so much easier with your strat^^)
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby RaptorXI on Thu 11 Mar 10, 22:25

Improve your tries with this: use random to have plus 450 gold at start. Chance = 1 - (5/6)^n [n = number of games in a row] to get your favorite tank.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby eSVau on Thu 11 Mar 10, 23:23

RaptorXI wrote:Chance = 1 - (5/6)^n [n = number of games in a row] to get your favorite tank right at start.


The chance is constant and wont change with number of games - every game is independent from another.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby RaptorXI on Thu 11 Mar 10, 23:33

Did you maybe not recognize that I wrote games in a row?
Because if you want to use the random function, you have to start games way more often until you can really begin to start a good try. And then the probability sinks every game to have bad luck by chosing random.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby eSVau on Thu 11 Mar 10, 23:39

RaptorXI wrote:Did you maybe not recognize that I wrote games in a row?
Because if you want to use the random function, you have to start games way more often until you can really begin to start a good try. And then the probability sinks every game to have bad luck by chosing random.


So, if you toss a coin a few hundred times and always toss tails the probability to heads will be biased?
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby RaptorXI on Thu 11 Mar 10, 23:46

No, but the probability (to receive tails every time) strives for 0 the more you toss.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby RaptorXI on Fri 12 Mar 10, 03:35

I did it in 8 miuntes, 32 seconds with Medivac which is the best tank.
Version of Frostthron 1.24d, version of Battletanks 8.67f.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Velocity2k on Fri 12 Mar 10, 09:26

RaptorXI wrote:No, but the probability (to receive tails every time) strives for 0 the more you toss.


The probability is always the same for one experiment. Maybe you should lookup some stochastic basics ;).

Or do you want to tell us that the random in the current game depends on your previous games?

The games are independent and thus the probability is always the same.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby RaptorXI on Fri 12 Mar 10, 11:55

I know about stochastic basics and even beyond, but you (esv/velocity) and me have different cases in mind.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Althend on Fri 12 Mar 10, 15:33

I agree with raptor. It is not about independant "shot" if we consider it in a row. The expected return is a factor that we can take in count.
For example even if each game is independant, if you start x games at same times, your probability to get it is x times higher... Yourself is the link between these game ^_^ making it dependant.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Velocity2k on Fri 12 Mar 10, 16:13

It's not about having games in one row. It's only about the number of games. The Probability to get a specific tank at least one time if you increase the number of games surely increases. But the formula is not correct. Should be calculated with a binomial distribution.

The point is, for one single game the probability will never change. But for sure if you increase the number of games the probability not to get the tank you want will decrease.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby jonjon on Sun 14 Mar 10, 14:23

Prog wrote:
jonjon wrote:I just played 8.67f.
I got 7:55 thereabouts. I'll post when someone beats 8:33. haha


post it, even tho it's not faster than 7:39 ;P

(btw it is so much easier with your strat^^)


Quite impressive. I've already beaten that time but it's not worth me posting times that can beat each other by mere seconds. I'll come back when I've broken 7 minutes. I know my strat is capable of doing 6:30. I had the chance at one time but got carried away and went for swarm of chaos. Very bad mistake.

(btw I got 7:36. Lame!)

Edit: I beat it again by 9 seconds. 7:27.
BTW the map is 8.67d and is located in map/downloads
Edit #2: I beat it again by another 3 seconds. 7.24. I hate it when AI has no gold to teleport. Have to time my kills.
Edit #3: Kind of kicking myself at the moment. I got a new record of 6:49 which I didn't save by accident (pressed the space bar). Now I have to do it again. :|
Edit #4: Finally got 6:47. Almost perfect. Stuffed up towards the end during my run up from bottom.
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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Jayzer on Sun 16 May 10, 23:22

haha I just reinstalled warcraft III on my new PC and I don't have any of these older maps so it won't let me see these games but it sounds like a fun idea.

Is there a safe place where the older map versions can be downloaded?

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Re: How bout a little competition ^^

Postby Saiyuki on Mon 17 May 10, 00:17

if you know the exact version, you may simply edit the download link by putting the version at the end of the url
http://btanks.net/v2/mapdl.php?version=8.70
http://btanks.net/v2/mapdl.php?version=8.69
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