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Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - griffin1987 - 2009-10-24
AH! Cool to know - is there a way to fix it? Because it's a bit annoying
)And about map size again: I can understand why you'd want it to be easily distributable, but what I meant was not to add another X mb of size to it, but the fact, that switching some skill icons Is probably not gonna make a difference of some megabyte.
Would be different if you were to increase the map size (which would be really cool, if you did a 3 team / 4 players per team btanks with increased map size or at least a 6 players per team game).
Btw.: Why did you add the observers? Before it was possible to play 6vs6 with one player on each side playing force, which was really cool (played it quite often). At least with a hosting bot it is
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Exodus - 2009-10-24
Unfortunately, there seems to be no way to fix this, it's hardcoded into Wc3 and I couldn't find a way to change this (you'll find this even in DotA).
Also, the host bots were messing with some basic things of BT, which I didn't want to happen. Controlling the forces and such, opened some possible abuses, which I wanted to avoid. It's theoretically possible to remove the observers and make BT into a 6vs6 map. I ensured code-wise, that this won't require that much work anymore. But as stated before, BT is made to be a 5vs5 map. Although it's not that important, you also have to keep in mind, that when BT would be a 6vs6 map, you'd always have this color issue with the minimap and not only when there are observers in the game.
This is because the forces are normally player 11 and 12, which have normal colors. But when there are observers (or two additional players) the forces can't use these slots, so they'll have to be controlled by neutral players, which have these dark minimap colors, which can't be changed.
Right now the forces are only controlled by neutral players, when there are observers. Thats the reason for the strange behaviour of the minimap colors.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - griffin1987 - 2009-10-24
Now that sucks
Thanks for explaining that tough!
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Vomitus - 2009-10-24
The reason of monocoloring was pretty obvious. But making map 6x6 will introduce huge disbalance because of lack of free lanes. 3 players playing mid is already too much. Having 1 extra player he won't know what to do generally. Moreover, trading will be more profitable for 6 players rather than for 5.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Paladon - 2009-10-26
Concerning a possible replacement of the golden coin, i'm open for suggestions (suggest importable icons as well).
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - TKF - 2009-10-26
Paladon Wrote:Concerning a possible replacement of the golden coin, i'm open for suggestions (suggest importable icons as well).Imports are unecesary just for eyecandy imo. Using minimal imports is preferred. I like the coin.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Paladon - 2009-10-26
*possible*
Maybe there's something persuading me.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Tom-Ace - 2009-10-26
Well on the bt mod i have beed working on, it has many new custom icons that are great and fit the name like battery. (i mean guys does it look like a battery O.o)
Here is a pick of some of my custom icons, they was DL from hiveworkshop.
Edit: I forgot to say all are bug free and work on mac computers.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Saiyuki - 2009-10-26
one of these could fit, when edited as a passive icon.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - SCorpA1 - 2009-10-26
imo none of the icons fit into bt...
besides its a bit offtopic
to the gold coin. i like it, too
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Vomitus - 2009-10-26
Is it possible to stretch that icon to cover all three stats? So we can import custom made icon which will include 3 tiny icons aligned in a column to achieve in the end what I was suggesting in the header post?
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - SCorpA1 - 2009-10-26
Vomitus Wrote:Is it possible to stretch that icon to cover all three stats? So we can import custom made icon which will include 3 tiny icons aligned in a column to achieve in the end what I was suggesting in the header post?no, its hardcoded
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Tom-Ace - 2009-10-26
SCorpA1 Wrote:imo none of the icons fit into bt...
besides its a bit offtopic
to the gold coin. i like it, too
You never like any ideas i post. :cry:
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Vomitus - 2009-10-26
SCorpA1 Wrote:no, its hardcodedAnd if we put bigger image there? How would that icon behave? Will it shrink it, cut off or go beyond edges?
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Saiyuki - 2009-10-26
most likely resized to the standard width and height...
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - SCorpA1 - 2009-10-26
Vomitus Wrote:Is it possible to stretch that icon to cover all three stats? So we can import custom made icon which will include 3 tiny icons aligned in a column to achieve in the end what I was suggesting in the header post?plz dont take it personal :wink: , i just think the style of the of the icons fit into btanks. look at the icons in the map and look at yours. the bt icons have the classic wc3 style but your incons somehow not
argh i hate my bad english
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Tom-Ace - 2009-10-26
I understand that the icons don't fit the middle ages theme that wc3 has, but seriously it's battle tanks not battle carts.
I guess i just don't understand having a icon for lets say iron hull thats a building icon in the game. And why do we have to fit this "theme" you talk about, i tested my mod with 7 friends and they all liked the new icons.
I guess some people just don't like change.
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Vomitus - 2009-10-26
SCorpA1 Wrote:plz dont take it personalDidn't take.
SCorpA1 Wrote:i just think the style of the of the icons fit into btanks. look at the icons in the map and look at yours. the bt icons have the classic wc3 style but your incons somehow notNo offense, but man, I hate you. I took first found icons on google image finder and pasted them into screenshot. It was not the icons themselves I was suggesting but the idea to use 3 that represent each stat and not only one! I took those icons just to show an example (and not to waste too much time to do possibly worthless work). Of course, we should take other icons in there but the idea was that there have to be THREE icons rather tha ONE!
This is a development process we are talking about, when you judge try to use your brain, not your heart! Law is a mind free of passion, remember that.
Tom-Ace Wrote:I guess some people just don't like change.That's true. Down with conservatism!
Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - Tom-Ace - 2009-10-26
Oui.
Lot of people get up in arms over icons.
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Re: Do you like the new "golden coin" and "optical appearance"? - SCorpA1 - 2009-10-27
Vomitus Wrote:argh i made a big mistakeSCorpA1 Wrote:i just think the style of the of the icons fit into btanks. look at the icons in the map and look at yours. the bt icons have the classic wc3 style but your incons somehow notNo offense, but man, I hate you. I took first found icons on google image finder and pasted them into screenshot. It was not the icons themselves I was suggesting but the idea to use 3 that represent each stat and not only one! I took those icons just to show an example (and not to waste too much time to do possibly worthless work). Of course, we should take other icons in there but the idea was that there have to be THREE icons rather tha ONE!
This is a development process we are talking about, when you judge try to use your brain, not your heart! Law is a mind free of passion, remember that.
. i qouted the wrong post i ment tom-ace and his invenotry icons.
sorry
here is the post i wnated to quote
Quote:You never like any ideas i post. :cry: