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Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - RandomAcc - 2009-04-13
I played a game in which the opposing team got a frost laser before the 1 hour mark. All i had was were poison magics. The guy with the frost laser pushed to my base but failed. Later on i saved enough for swarm of chaos and begin to pick off the weak noobs who refused teamwork. I got my second swarm of chaos around the time the opposing team's frost laser guy got his second laser. In all the matchups i faced with him..as in teleing to each other and fighting off..i won most of it. the game ended pretty quick with me triple killing them while base rushing with my teams creeps behing me. The game then ended fairly quick. This was a HB game btw...so it might not mean much in a normal game.
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - Dr.McNinja - 2009-04-13
Seems fine to me, they failed to stop you effectively.
Once they get into your range, range does nothing. Your higher dps will simply beat them. It also seems like having at least 2 is much more effective because of the relatively slow attack speed.
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - RandomAcc - 2009-04-13
You sure? The whole team couldn't stop me from triple killing them. I would say this wep is one the most potent weps considering it does 2800 damage per wave and the cd is around 0.75. Wouldn't be much of a team game if i could solo them all.
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - Dr.McNinja - 2009-04-13
with the shortest range of all superweapons (25-30k) it clearly is the most potent, no question about that. Short range. Just like any other close combat weapon.
Strong: yes
Nerf? no
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - qweqqweq - 2009-04-14
no matter how much dps you have you can't tripple kill 3 titans working together correctly.
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - GooglyBoogly - 2009-04-14
Quote:and begin to pick off the weak noobs who refused teamwork.
that is why you won, it wasn't because swarm of chaos was overpowered, but because they fed you and their frost lazer tank couldn't leverage the extra range.
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - horselance - 2009-04-14
Swarm of Chaos is just a pack of 3 Blasters. And belongs to general weapon formula. If there was something abnormal with this weapon, then there should have been more abnormalities with laser, poison magic and flamer due to more dps/gold...
Somebody jump on you? > Buy a tp breaker..
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - Althend - 2009-04-14
Nothing wrong with this weapon ^_^
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - Morkardar - 2009-04-15
It is strong unless you face someone with 2 frost lasers while you are 700 range away
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - Dr.Popitz - 2009-04-15
And then again get a teleporter or stun the enemy to get closer. :wink:
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - BENNIE.FM - 2009-04-25
i think its a cool weapon pretty overall balanced but i know what your saying ....if you 4- 5 have swarm of chaos with sky fortress and hold some one with 35kp there dead in 2 sec
:lol:
But then again you could vs some with 5 swarm of chaos with sky fortess and hold them out of range with 5 frost lasers and don't let them touch you its just when they tp into you TP BREAKER FTW
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - snutsMU - 2009-04-25
yeah, i actually had the opposite of this going on, a team i was playing had 2 players with 4-5 swarms and hulls (only one had a tele item) and i had 5 up'd frosts and a ult pack...They didn't work together and tried to 1v1 me the whole time, and i wrecked them. the one w/ a tele pack wouldn't tele in to fight, he always used it to try and tele out of them, so i'd tele behind him and finish him off. The one w/out tele was just too ez to run down (one w/o tele was titan and one w/ tele was infernal I was titan).
it all depends on tactics and teamwork. Swarm of Chaos on a slow no tele tank = garbage...
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - SCorpA1 - 2009-04-25
snutsMU Wrote:yeah, i actually had the opposite of this going on, a team i was playing had 2 players with 4-5 swarms and hulls (only one had a tele item) and i had 5 up'd frosts and a ult pack...They didn't work together and tried to 1v1 me the whole time, and i wrecked them. the one w/ a tele pack wouldn't tele in to fight, he always used it to try and tele out of them, so i'd tele behind him and finish him off. The one w/out tele was just too ez to run down (one w/o tele was titan and one w/ tele was infernal I was titan).hb?
it all depends on tactics and teamwork. Swarm of Chaos on a slow no tele tank = garbage...
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - snutsMU - 2009-06-08
yeah, hb...i think 5k hb was game mode...
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - DJ.FELLI-FEL - 2009-06-08
The thing is frost laser has the advantage of range and swarm of chaos makes up for range in damage so if you use frost lasers you must keep your range to win.
example:laser(long) vs poison magic
Other team just does not know how to beat short range wit long range
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - SCorpA1 - 2009-06-08
snutsMU Wrote:yeah, hb...i think 5k hb was game mode...hb is a not balanced game mode of battle tanks and wont be balanced ever. hb is supported in the forum for suggestions, balances etc. (am i right? correct me if im not)
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - TKF - 2009-06-08
All weapons follows a certain weapon formula. It's a simple fact that short range weapons does higher damage.
Nerfing Swarm of Chaos is completely out of option.
Re: Swarm of chaos needs to be nerfed? - BENNIE.FM - 2009-06-09
indeed btw short range always gonna do more damage cause of formula used to balance the weapons frost lasers are just as good when you keep your distance.