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Demon Tank vs Hunter - TKF - 2010-11-30
Hunter can split up and disturb enemy team work, can cause effective lockdown and effective at killing multiple enemies. Strong tank killer and teamwork tank.
Strength:
Hunter is strong vs ground tanks, clustered group of tanks, adept at getting multikills especially in combination with orbital strike item. Adept at long/medium range combat since it's abilities emphasize on long range combat. It's abilties makes it more often take place in distant combat. It's gravity grenade is effective ability vs tanks, especially a teamwork counter.
Weakness:
Hunter is relatively weak at structure killing and creeping and has only main cannon skill to clear creeps. Gas cloud doesn't affect air tanks and gravity grenade damage enemy tanks only. Hunters abilities isn't effective for close range combat and gravity grenade ability does affect friendly tanks as well. Main cannon can miss.
Demon Tank has abilities which enables it to effectively fight air tanks and it's very hard for an air tank to run from a demon tank once he has been shot and been banished. Good for chasing enemies.
Strength:
Demon tank is strong vs close enemies and especially vs air tanks. Easier to kill air tanks. Adept at medium/short range combat since it's ultimate is close range. It has long time stun with lava shot which often leads to getting a safe kill.
Weakness:
Demon tank is slightly less effective against ground tanks than air and is less effective vs long range tactics which makes it unable to use it's ultimate ability. It's less allround than heavy tank. It's abilities makes it more often to engage in close combat. Might struggle vs teamwork since it's abilities is mostly focused.
My opinion is that I like hunter better cuz I find it easier to player hunter than demon tank and i like the hunters abilities better the demon tanks abilities overall. I find it slightly weaker than hunter.
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - AGGInator - 2010-11-30
TKF Wrote:and has only main cannon skill to clear creeps.the one mistake in your thread
herosniper doesnt attack creeps..
an early hunter must have a bow to be efficient.
edit: i failed.. sorry
never mind..
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - Exodus - 2010-11-30
Since he's talking about the first skill, it's correct what he's saying.
But TKF, you could also add the weakness of the Hunter, that he can trap himself and his team mates in his ultimate.
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - RaptorXI - 2010-12-01
Hard to compare these tanks since they are contrary to each other (I prefer Dämon on the lane and Hunter in the middle as you already showed the strengths and weaknesses).
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - Althend - 2010-12-01
I vote hunter... Would be neutral if Demon had the same price...
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - Prog - 2010-12-01
RaptorXI Wrote:Hard to compare these tanks since they are contrary to each other (I prefer Dämon on the lane and Hunter in the middle as you already showed the strengths and weaknesses).
Exactly. They have totally different roles and have hence different weaknesses.
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-12-01
Demon Tank: 1on1 close range anti air tank
Hunter: The best teamtank you can get, long range based (900+), anti everything tank (also anti same team) :mrgreen:
=> Hunter is better than Demon.
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - ArGoLi - 2010-12-01
but demon fucks hunter in1 vs 1
no chance for hunter, because stun of demon is longer ranged than gravitygrenade and when both have porter its easy just use lava shot come to clos range and when hunter would port away port diretly next to him = ulti nonsense
but in a 5 vs 5 hunter is just imba especiallay when there are running some noobs wiht their air ships and heavy tanks without a hull^^
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - Ger-Dyers-Eve - 2010-12-01
ArGoLi Wrote:but in a 5 vs 5 hunter is just imba especiallay when there are running some noobs wiht their air ships and heavy tanks without a hull^^Thats no imbalance, its dumbness of players. Hull is for these tanks more than a must have. Escpacially, if there is a hunter (with orbital) :mrgreen:
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - ArGoLi - 2010-12-02
y...
but its imba cause there are so many dumb players in the league xD
but youre right yes normaly hunter isnt that imba
silliest thing is when 2 in your team got one just lame and sucking^^ both get all kills but steal from themselve and so on^^
Re: Demon Tank vs Hunter - Dr.xD - 2010-12-03
Quote:I find it slightly weaker than hunter.Yeah same. The Demon ulti should be buffed (more dmg and / or more range) or completly remade. I prefer the more damage method. I would like to see the ulti @max lvl with 3200 or 3400 dmg (or even more dmg up to 3500)... And maybe a lil more aoe size / range for the ulti...
Doesnt have to do with this but: maybe reducing the start dmg of heavy ulti by 100 (*2 = 200 @ double hit - will result in - 200*2 = 400 dmg @ max) will / might fix the heavy a lil... Its just that some tanks / situations or both dont allow the player to dodge. And i am not talking about teamwork related situations...