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+---- Thread: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! (/showthread.php?tid=2441)
Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - psycho_dmr - 2007-11-05
no idea whats wrong here, but look @ TKF after he bought Gobo Shredder.... looks like he makes double dmg or something
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Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Havana - 2007-11-06
can agree.... this was not normal...
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - TKF - 2007-11-06
I don't agree, I find this combat situation normal. Shredder glaives does 600 dmg at lv3, plus some of the weapons hit you, you only got 1000-1100 hp, so you dies when you're hit by some weapons + the glaive.
A normal game isn't supposed to have 2 leavers early, so a unbalanced game is it when you have Goblin shredder in 11 min with 2 upgraded basic magics and a Swarm Rocket weapon cuz of 2 leavers.
This game was the fastest game I ever had in 8.29 so far. Short games is very unusual for me.
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Havana - 2007-11-06
imo the rate of psychos and my hits is too fast for your basics even if you have 4 projectiles...
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Bob666 - 2007-11-07
hab mir das replay angeguckt, auf 1/2 speed gestellt und schaden angeguckt... also ne basic magic hat ganz bestimmt 111 schaden gemacht... die waffengeschwindigkeit ist auch wohl normal, werte für die glaives sind im editor auch in ordnung... und ihr hattet beide keine
ive watched the replay now, with 1/2 speed and then watched the damage... the basic magic does 111 damage, as its also in the tooltip, and the speed is ok, too, i think... the glaive damage is also right in the editor... and both of you didnt have a hull or something like that, i think it just was luck and afterwards, when he had swarm rockets, it was quite clear that he would kill you very fast... he was also lucky, because the glaives dont have a long range, and if the distance were ~10 higher, then you wouldnt be hit i think... so everything is normal, he had the better tank and weapons, the only possible thing to fix can be the goblin to be imba, but imho thats not needed
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - TKF - 2007-11-07
The range of the glaives seems long, also the cost of the goblin shredder is reduced to 3000 in 8.29!!! I think it's should stay at 3300 as imba it is. I never considered this as a start tank.
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Bob666 - 2007-11-07
then we will have to reduce the damage i think... i wanted to make the shredder a bit more popular
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Batto - 2007-11-07
Sorry but that doesnt seem necesarry to me. Shredder users know where to find it, those who cant play shredder should stay off! Not everything has to be in range for first time players!
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - TKF - 2007-11-07
With the price of 3000, the shredder totally owns with metal stars skill, in addition it got dmg reduction ability in form of goblin turbo, which is very imba. This is imo the best start tank, and if you level it to lv4, it begins to become dangerous.
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Batto - 2007-11-07
My answer was to bob666 who wanted the tank to become more popular. I am in favor of restoring it how it was before!
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Bob666 - 2007-11-07
maybe you are, i am not...
i could only weaken some abilities
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - TKF - 2007-11-07
Anyway, I think the shredder was imbalanced when it did cost 3300. Of course the skills cannot be the same when you decrease the price of the shredder. NERF IS NEEDED!!!. Shredder needs to be rebalanced.
The glaives should perhaps do 180 dmg or less pr level. (This skill is very imba!)
Shredder melee skill should perhaps do 315 dmg or less pr level.
Teleport can be reduced to 720 range + 180 pr level.
When the tanks cost 10% the skills should do 10% less, right?. (Just an example)
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Bob666 - 2007-11-07
then the tinker wouldnt have any abilities... but i can weaken the damage skills by 5%-10%, the others make no sense to weaken, because the unit teleport already is a problem when used near cliffs etc... and the goblin turbo is just the goblin tank skill
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - TKF - 2007-11-07
Ok, I understand. Perhaps a small nerf if the shredder is to remain at 3000 gold, But i don't consider this a start tank. It's enough with 5 tanks in my opinion, this should have stayed over 3000.
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - Bob666 - 2007-11-07
you can still buy it later, if you want to... and i tried to use it as a start tank, and at least public it worked fine
Re: Gobo Shredder Double Damage bug ?! - TKF - 2007-11-11
Moi! I still dislike that the shredder is so cheap.