(2012-10-31, 16:20:33)Perfektionist Wrote: but siegepack for 1500 is to cheap. For 2500 you have to think if you really need them. But for 1500 you buy them (1500 is nothing) and rape enemys base easyly.

(2012-10-31, 17:44:59)Wupti Wrote: well i dont agree here, besides the price for advanced isnt decreased since troops is more expensive so it would basically be same just a different share between the gold. if a guy ONLY buy siege (1500) i think it's a fair price actually. and if he buy whole package the price is still the same or am i wrong ?

(2012-10-31, 19:46:21)Prog Wrote: I like the troops the way they are right now, making them more expensive would remove some early/mid game options and handicap Ghost/Guard. In many cases they are free gold/xp anyway due to the aoe spells.

Also here lies the only way i'd even consider them to be nerfed (if at all): More bounty. If the bounty is higher a well thought out use of the troops does not get weaker, but everytime you misuse the troops you lose more money. The bounty could also be something bound to the upgrades (so you dont get the troop command upgrades for free, but you kinda trade them).

(2012-10-31, 20:57:02)Wupti Wrote: well i dont dislike troops at all either i like them, but if i look at the game critical i think some items are imbalanced at the moment, where troops is one of the bad boys with maintenance and deflective. if you look how much you currently pay for troops it's 2500 which is equal to 1 electro un upg og plasma upg. i simply find troops way more powerful when compared to other items, but then again it's hard to compare weapons, numlock items, and defensive items. Troops works fine with any tank, so i dont see how it specifically harm ghost or guard that much (even though i know it works for them too), and besides the cost for advanced troop command stays the same, which any ghost, guard would go anyway.

@ perfektionist
I understand your point of view, about it being too cheap but then come with another alternative
My point of view:

What siegepack can do:
-Destroy towers (so can weapons)
-Minor cover

What Troops can do:
-Cover/Conquer Cp
-Give u perfect cover and escape easy
-Do around 1-2k dmg per sec if used effectively
-Help kill base/towers aswell

so i dont see why these 2 items have same cost

(2012-10-31, 21:57:18)Perfektionist Wrote:

(2012-10-31, 20:57:02)Wupti Wrote: well i dont dislike troops at all either i like them, but if i look at the game critical i think some items are imbalanced at the moment, where troops is one of the bad boys with maintenance and deflective. if you look how much you currently pay for troops it's 2500 which is equal to 1 electro un upg og plasma upg. i simply find troops way more powerful when compared to other items, but then again it's hard to compare weapons, numlock items, and defensive items. Troops works fine with any tank, so i dont see how it specifically harm ghost or guard that much (even though i know it works for them too), and besides the cost for advanced troop command stays the same, which any ghost, guard would go anyway.

@ perfektionist
I understand your point of view, about it being too cheap but then come with another alternative
My point of view:

What siegepack can do:
-Destroy towers (so can weapons)
-Minor cover

What Troops can do:
-Cover/Conquer Cp
-Give u perfect cover and escape easy
-Do around 1-2k dmg per sec if used effectively
-Help kill base/towers aswell

so i dont see why these 2 items have same cost

But troops are easy to counter. One havy ulti, air tank ulti or thunder and all troops are dead.

(2012-10-31, 22:23:36)LoveComesAgain Wrote: mb increase time of cd?

(2012-10-31, 22:49:10)LIoOoOoIL Wrote: Im up to u Wupti, but arent 3k and 2k not already enough? 3.5k is close to dismiss them in the early game phase and 1.5k for mortars is probably to cheap and could even seduce ppl to destroy buildings instead.

(2012-10-31, 22:11:23)Wupti Wrote: -fun fact: in my last 20 games the average is 5-6 (104 out of 200) players who buy troops (not adv all)

Quote:well i dont dislike troops at all either i like them, but if i look at the game critical i think some items are imbalanced at the moment, where troops is one of the bad boys with maintenance and deflective.

(2012-10-31, 20:57:02)Wupti Wrote: What siegepack can do:
-Destroy towers (so can weapons)
-Minor cover

(2012-10-31, 22:49:10)LIoOoOoIL Wrote: Im up to u Wupti, but arent 3k and 2k not already enough? 3.5k is close to dismiss them in the early game phase and 1.5k for mortars is probably to cheap and could even seduce ppl to destroy buildings instead.

(2012-11-01, 02:22:55)Prog Wrote: Also it is well known that some kits work better with troops than others (e.g. ghost ultimate), so any change to troops are a nerf for those tanks. Also some currently somewhat viable strats would cease to exist (e.g. any scout+troop start or Antigrav with 1 11xx gold weapon and troops after 5 min).

• else you are sieged and well it is one of the best choice for ennemy team to end game faster.
  
• else you are trying to cap cp and I really dont think that If your team choose mass troops against a good teamplay you ll do something (orbital and any kind of aoe will obliterate all troops and made your team waste their gold). Or your team will spawn their troops one by one, but if ennemys are not dumb they will save their aoe for troops and for the time when you dont spawn troops you fight with one less weaps than ennemy.