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Slight Topography Change - xplodingtinkftw - 2010-03-31
Hi, I would like to see an accessible path made between the top cp and the tank shop. I find bottom to be a more valuable cp then top because of the relative easy with which you can access the tank shop vs top. I would imagine that this is not a difficult change. Please feel free to give any input either for or against, or if you feel that any other topography changes should be made.
Re: Slight Topography Change - Velocity2k - 2010-03-31
Could you describe this in more detail? Maybe with a picture of what you would like to see.
Re: Slight Topography Change - RaptorXI - 2010-03-31
The shop on the sub lane is easy to reach for players of the Dark Force,
the shop on the upper lane is easy to reach for players of the Light Force.
But on the other hand, if one is (DF on the upper, LF on the sub lane) it is hard to reach the shop, especially for ground tanks: While the bridge leads dircetly from the shop to the control point on the sub, on the upper lane the forest forces a ground unit has to make curves. The effect is that the way becomes longer, so the shopping (ground) tank is an easy target, at least easier as on the sub lane.
Also the lengths of the longer ways are not equal in my opinion.
Re: Slight Topography Change - jonjon - 2010-04-01
This too.
Light force ground tanks can access this shop better than Dark Force ground tanks. Is it deliberate?
Re: Slight Topography Change - Prog - 2010-04-01
In my opinion it can stay as it is - I do like the asymetry and the unbalance effect is quite small. Especially the "better access" is not even worth mentioning, as every skilled player gets either pilot in no tinker mode, or tinker and ports from the cp to the tank shop.
Re: Slight Topography Change - BENNIE.FM - 2010-04-01
Prog Wrote:In my opinion it can stay as it is - I do like the asymetry and the unbalance effect is quite small. Especially the "better access" is not even worth mentioning, as every skilled player gets either pilot in no tinker mode, or tinker and ports from the cp to the tank shop.
yea i agree but it might be interesting
Re: Slight Topography Change - RaptorXI - 2010-04-01
But still the Dark Force players have a disadvantage at the weapon (!) shops.
Re: Slight Topography Change - Althend - 2010-04-01
RaptorXI Wrote:But still the Dark Force players have a disadvantage at the weapon (!) shops.
True.
Re: Slight Topography Change - ssl - 2010-04-01
Would be interesting to look at the avarage wins/loses for Dark and Light Force in the leage beta games since the player shuffle is active. Theoretically it should converge to 0.5/0.5 as there are really many many games played. Perhaps you can there see some map asymetries wich favor one force.
Re: Slight Topography Change - eSVau - 2010-04-01
It's about 51% dark force victories :wink:
Re: Slight Topography Change - ssl - 2010-04-01
Interesting. So either your theories about the shops beeing disadvantage for Dark Force is wrong or theres something other.
Re: Slight Topography Change - Velocity2k - 2010-04-01
I think the advantages/disadvantages are extremely small. It hardly makes any difference.
You'll find many small "asymmetric" places all over the map. Not sure if it is really something to be "fixed".
Re: Slight Topography Change - RaptorXI - 2010-04-01
eSVau Wrote:It's about 51% dark force victories :wink:Proof?
ssl Wrote:So either your theories about the shops beeing disadvantage for Dark Force is wrong or theres something other.I said the Dark Forces has a disadvantage at the lane weapon shops, not all over the map. Yes, there are games where Dark Force is proud if they can bash some newbies.
@ Velocity: Who mentioned "fixing"? I wanted to show imbalances on the map, not to tell the mappers how to create 'their' game.
Re: Slight Topography Change - Prog - 2010-04-01
RaptorXI Wrote:eSVau Wrote:It's about 51% dark force victories :wink:Proof?
You'll have to believe him as you can't expect to get access to the league database. ESVau has this access as he works on the leaguepage/-formula/etc.
Re: Slight Topography Change - RaptorXI - 2010-04-01
No problem, but believe and science are not the same.
Re: Slight Topography Change - jonjon - 2010-04-02
Velocity2k Wrote:I think the advantages/disadvantages are extremely small. It hardly makes any difference.
You'll find many small "asymmetric" places all over the map. Not sure if it is really something to be "fixed".
Like that annoying light pole situated near light force CP in middle lane. :lol: