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New Weapons Thread - Lezowski - 2010-02-11

Outpost needs more items. Discuss possible ones here. No gimmick crap, real weapons with real stats. Make sure that there is a suitable animation and icon for the new weapon.

I'm pretty sure that the actual cost does not need to be exact to the shop price, but please keep it in a close margin.



horselance's weapon calculator
http://btanks.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2123&p


Necro Cannon
[Image: sacrificialskull.gif]

Projectile: Necromancer
Shop Cost: 5000
Actual Cost: 5005

Damage: 275
Cooldown: 0.75 secs
Range: 910
DPS: 366.666

Upgrade: +55 Damage
Cost: 1000
Actual Cost: 1001

Damage: 330
DPS: 440

Re: New Weapons Thread - jonjon - 2010-02-12

I'd like to help. But in order for me to post statistics on a weapon, I'd like to know what the equation is for determining the price.

price = dps * range/2???
I want to be able to make more 1300 range weapons for this game. We are lacking them and death magic is practically unused.

Re: New Weapons Thread - jonjon - 2010-02-12

Never mind, I found it.

damage = (4 * gold cost * fire rate * damage factor) / (0.06 * range)

Edit: Sorry, but is this equation accurate? I'm just assuming that damage is just damage per bullet and damage factor to be damage per second.

Re: New Weapons Thread - Battlemaniac - 2010-02-12

i'd be intrigued to see how many ways people can use the reflex shield discussed on the other topic

Re: New Weapons Thread - horselance - 2010-02-12

:wink: Damage factor is a coefficient of weapon mode. For "normal" mode it is 1 and for "creep only" 1.75 etc..
:arrow: here is my calculator: http://btanks.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2123&p

Re: New Weapons Thread - Lezowski - 2010-02-12

Battlemaniac Wrote:i'd be intrigued to see how many ways people can use the reflex shield discussed on the other topic

That's a gimmick. This here thread is for weapons.

Re: New Weapons Thread - Saiyuki - 2010-02-13

Lezowski Wrote:Necro Cannon
[Image: sacrificialskull.gif]

Projectile: Necromancer
Shop Cost: 5000
Actual Cost: 5005

Damage: 275
Cooldown: 0.75 secs
Range: 910
DPS: 366.666

Upgrade: Not sure. What determines an upgrade, just an increase to stats?
upgrade costs vary between 20% and 33% of the weapon cost. only one stat may be increased.

Re: New Weapons Thread - khEg - 2010-02-13

(st)range Big Grin

I'd like another weapon with 950 range because there is only the plasma fragments between the gap of fireball/fan of knifes and frost laser ^^
atm i dont know exactly what i was thinking of .. maybe ill make some suggestions tomorrow :wink:

Re: New Weapons Thread - GooglyBoogly - 2010-02-13

Saiyuki Wrote:upgrade costs vary between 20% and 33% of the weapon cost. only one stat may be increased.

some upgrade costs can be as high as ~50% of the original weapon.
e.g basic magic (costs 1111, upgrade 555)

Don't forget that some weapons change modes, and thus do not upgrade at all

Re: New Weapons Thread - khEg - 2010-02-13

Okay here is my proposal:

Name: Spears of Light
Picture: ???
Animation: ???


Shop Costs: 7500
Actual Costs: 7481

Damage: 420 (2x 210)
Cooldown: 0.8 sec
Range: 950
DPS: 525


Upgrade:
Costs: 3000 (actual costs: 3064)
Change: +168 Damage

Damage: 592 (2x 296)
DPS: 740

Re: New Weapons Thread - LivingFR - 2010-02-13

These Spears of light would be pretty much the same as the ion cannon, just split into 2 less dmgdealer + 50 more range

Re: New Weapons Thread - Battlemaniac - 2010-02-13

Here is my take for that weapon

Lezowski Wrote:Necro Cannon
[Image: sacrificialskull.gif]

AOE: Necromancer
Shop Cost: 5000
Actual Cost: 5005

Cooldown: 0.33 secs
Range: 1300

Revives all creeps friend and foe in the AOE range to fight for the necromancer, creeps are controllable by the user

perfect to go along with the Ghost TankWink or those who likes to use command center and factories

Re: New Weapons Thread - Saiyuki - 2010-02-13

Battlemaniac Wrote:Here is my take for that weapon

Lezowski Wrote:Necro Cannon
[Image: sacrificialskull.gif]

AOE: Necromancer
Shop Cost: 5000
Actual Cost: 5005

Cooldown: 0.33 secs
Range: 1300

Revives all creeps friend and foe in the AOE range to fight for the necromancer, creeps are controllable by the user

perfect to go along with the Ghost TankWink or those who likes to use command center and factories
please leave your spam out of this topic.

Re: New Weapons Thread - khEg - 2010-02-13

khEg Wrote:Okay here is my proposal:

Name: Spears of Light
Picture: ???
Animation: ???


Shop Costs: 7500
Actual Costs: 7481

Damage: 420 (2x 210)
Cooldown: 0.8 sec
Range: 950
DPS: 525


Upgrade:
Costs: 3000 (actual costs: 3064)
Change: +168 Damage

Damage: 592 (2x 296)
DPS: 740
LivingFR Wrote:These Spears of light would be pretty much the same as the ion cannon, just split into 2 less dmgdealer + 50 more range

mhm i thought about that too .. maybe change to this:

Name: Spear of Light
Picture: ???
Animation: ???


Shop Costs: 7500
Actual Costs: 7467

Damage: 655
Cooldown: 1.25 sec
Range: 950
DPS: 524


Upgrade:
Costs: 3000 (actual costs: 3045)
Change: +270 Damage

Damage: 925
DPS: 740

Re: New Weapons Thread - Saiyuki - 2010-02-13

it would be a nice idea to vary the range a bit more. 900-100 range is just much to common in bt atm.

Re: New Weapons Thread - Lezowski - 2010-02-13

@Spears of Light

I was thinking the Dragonhawk rider animation and maybe the brilliance aura icon will fit it well. The new stats are better, the old version was just too similar to light fantastic.

Re: New Weapons Thread - Battlemaniac - 2010-02-13

not a spam, just a better and more interesting weapon, more fitting to the name of the weapon itself

Saiyuki Wrote:
Battlemaniac Wrote:Here is my take for that weapon

Lezowski Wrote:Necro Cannon
[Image: sacrificialskull.gif]

AOE: Necromancer
Shop Cost: 5000
Actual Cost: 5005

Cooldown: 0.33 secs
Range: 1300

Revives all creeps friend and foe in the AOE range to fight for the necromancer, creeps are controllable by the user

perfect to go along with the Ghost TankWink or those who likes to use command center and factories
please leave your spam out of this topic.


Re: New Weapons Thread - GooglyBoogly - 2010-02-14

Please reread the OP carefully Battlemaniac, you will see that your suggest was most certainly spam.

Re: New Weapons Thread - Battlemaniac - 2010-02-14

it has all the stats in there.

It is an AOE necro aura

range is there
shop cost, which is priced very nicely, as the troop command cost 2500, this one should cost at least double, as it can revive/summon all the dead creeps on the battlefield
the cost is there
there picture is there

what else is missing?

Re: New Weapons Thread - Paladon - 2010-02-14

The weaponWink