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should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - qweqqweq - 2010-01-19
different does not mean unbalanced. A new balance is created so long as both teams share the same choices. Why have a perfect map if no one will play it?
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - eSVau - 2010-01-19
How many times do you want to lose this vote? There has been already some and none got a clear vote for hb
hock:i vote for closing this thread.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - qweqqweq - 2010-01-19
why would u lock this thread if it's just proving your point that most people don't want 5k hb anyways?
last time i did a vote for making it normal mode just to see what the vote would be like. this time i'm just trying to see if a request to bring it back at all would be well liked.
it's possible people who don't like hb are voting more than once. kind of like how on northrend many of the players have a lot of accounts they use for various nefarious purposes. Nothing i can do about it if people are though. I thought the vote would at least be closer but oh well, guess not so far!
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - Saiyuki - 2010-01-19
well... because most hb player won't even check this forum, the vote is of no real meaning.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - Paladon - 2010-01-19
True that.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - GooglyBoogly - 2010-01-19
No.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - kingnounours - 2010-01-21
yes they need to bring back hb to not lose the popularity of this map. Hb was a good mode and need to comeback for pub game. I think that 5alt is a really good mode and is mixing HB with Normal but HB was another perfect mode in the game. I accept that every NORMAL player can PWN good HB player but the game became popular with HB not when it was 8.40 with a flying trader and a trading shop.
kingnounours
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - qweqqweq - 2010-01-21
kingnounours Wrote:yes they need to bring back hb to not lose the popularity of this map. Hb was a good mode and need to comeback for pub game. I think that 5alt is a really good mode and is mixing HB with Normal but HB was another perfect mode in the game. I accept that every NORMAL player can PWN good HB player but the game became popular with HB not when it was 8.40 with a flying trader and a trading shop.
kingnounours
i agree. i hope this topic isn't locked. no one flame in it please.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - scron2 - 2010-01-22
Reasons for:
-It's fun to play
-You get more gold
Reasons against:
-arguments about player's skill... is it bringing too many new players?
-arguments about balance --> if you are good does changing the mode change the game? (No, it doesn't --you'll still play well)
I listed out why many of the arguments against HB were completely trivial or nonsense in another topic. The voters here disagree so there is no point. Sure you can be elitist if you own the map and can tell people what to think if they are helping you mod the map. I don't care. I know of at least a dozen people who would like an HB game now and then. Would they bother posting here? Probably not because of fear of being flamed off this board completely and that's a problem.... (not to you is it?) That's how uninviting discussing this topic is. Anyone who has stopped by any typical Btanks clan channel gets exactly that kind of a statement, kicked or banned for suggesting they like HB at all. Why the board here follows suit isn't logical. The point is that a bad player is a bad player and a good player is a good player. Changing the mode does not affect that statement very much if you really think about it.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - mooneye - 2010-01-22
The voting explains this: most people in this forum hate HB
The voting can't explain: why Anna 5k HB was the most welcomed bot.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - khEg - 2010-01-22
mooneye Wrote:The voting explains this: most people in this forum hate HB
Thats not true. Please look up the word "to hate" in a dictionary.
mooneye Wrote:The voting can't explain: why Anna 5k HB was the most welcomed bot.
Prove please. Maybe you dont know that all the normal players prefered private games. So how do you know what was more popular if you havent seen all the private games!?
You cant prove that.
khEg
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - IlPalazzo - 2010-01-22
khEg Wrote:Prove please. Maybe you dont know that all the normal players prefered private games. So how do you know what was more popular if you havent seen all the private games!?
You cant prove that.
Hard to determine which mode is more popular, yes. At least without all the bot data... But Annabot was (and still) quite a popular bot nonetheless.
These numbers were posted by Icono a little while back when 8.55 was still around.
Icono Wrote:These stats are directly from Anna and only reflect 5khb games.
Anna hosts an average of 80 games per day of 5k hb.
She hosts on 3 realms at the same time and has players from all 3 realms at the same time in a game
Anna has hosted 13119 games at the time of this posting
54338 players were from Europe.battle.net
37969 players were from useeast.battle.net
38217 players were from uswest.battle.net
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - Tom-Ace - 2010-01-22
khEg Wrote:mooneye Wrote:The voting explains this: most people in this forum hate HB
Quote:Thats not true. Please look up the word "to hate" in a dictionary.
To dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.
I would say this fits with many people on this forum.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - BENNIE.FM - 2010-01-22
trust qweq to do something as stupid this lol
@mooneye anna bot is close to being the most played on bot for btanks
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - scron2 - 2010-01-23
Tom-Ace Wrote:I found in my other topic replying to kheg is a complete waste of time.khEg Wrote:mooneye Wrote:The voting explains this: most people in this forum hate HB
Quote:Thats not true. Please look up the word "to hate" in a dictionary.
To dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.
I would say this fits with many people on this forum.
LOL notice how he asks for us to prove something about HB being hosted more. This does not need to be proven, at the time it was common knowledge. This implies that since HB was becoming so prolific that the map makers decided to end it completely. If such was not the case, then we never really did have a problem to begin with. So it is only reasonable to assume that TOO many people were playing HB in lieu of Normal Mode.
Do you get the point now? Either HB isnt' a problem and noone was playing it anyway OR HB was a problem because too many people were playing it.
There is only one correct answer to this. But HB isn't inherently a problem! Popular preference in relation to this community is.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - Tom-Ace - 2010-01-24
This poll is the oddest thing ever, first time i see it, it was 6-16 then 7-17 then 8-18 now 9-19 lol everytime someone votes there is a counter vote heh.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - IlPalazzo - 2010-01-24
Tom-Ace Wrote:This poll is the oddest thing ever, first time i see it, it was 6-16 then 7-17 then 8-18 now 9-19 lol everytime someone votes there is a counter vote heh.
That's good, because clearly, as Votes --> Infinity , the Forum HB crowd / Forum Normal Crowd --> 1:1 :wink:
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - mooneye - 2010-01-24
some ppl like normal, so they play normal. some ppl like HB , so let them play HB. Why take out HB from the options? If it is noob's mode, let noobs play it. Noobs will find out which mode they like. As imba issue, noobs dont care. they just want fun. I am one of the noobs.
WE(33% ppl in this forum) want HB back as an option!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - karate_kid_x - 2010-01-24
Realize, that we're sitting in the ivory tower of forum-goers.
Re: should the mappers bring back 5k hb with hcl command? - cedi - 2010-01-25
I'm for hb and since it has been removed a played btanks only one time, because normal mode needs to much time and is to slow.
But
This vote can only fail, because 95% of the bnet players never look into such forums. Only the players which want to play the game realy serious are here and they're only a small part of the btanks player. The other part want only a short funny game, they don't want to play the game professional...
@btanks mappers: Remove the hb mode was the greatest fail I've ever seen around this map. Its like you wanted that btanks become unpopulary. Its like Icefrog would remove 95% of the heros ... ( that shouldn't be a flame, but I had to writ it down ... Your map is gifted with popularity and you want to kill it because some player like to play serious? wtf? ) But hey,you don't have to listen to us you can let it as it is, but then you've also to see how btanks slow vanish.
cedi