karate_kid_x Wrote:It's way too easy to kick people, and i've seen groups of people abuse the kicking system for money before, and kicking someone for being 3 and 5 and for other unwarrented reasons.

One of the major problems is that you don't even need anyone else to vote yes in order to kick someone, so long as nobody realizes that the person is being kicked.

A very good solution to this would be to allow the person being kicked to vote, or better yet, default his vote to no like the kickers vote is defaulted to yes.


The ease and frequency in which people get kicked is one of the biggest problems with Btanks, CERTAINLY orders of magnitude worse than HB ever could be

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DerSatan Wrote:

karate_kid_x Wrote:It's way too easy to kick people, and i've seen groups of people abuse the kicking system for money before, and kicking someone for being 3 and 5 and for other unwarrented reasons.

One of the major problems is that you don't even need anyone else to vote yes in order to kick someone, so long as nobody realizes that the person is being kicked.

A very good solution to this would be to allow the person being kicked to vote, or better yet, default his vote to no like the kickers vote is defaulted to yes.


The ease and frequency in which people get kicked is one of the biggest problems with Btanks, CERTAINLY orders of magnitude worse than HB ever could be

100% agree.

it has become commen pattern that players with a relatively low score just get kicked. BT is about killing tanks, but if you get killed, you get kicked. kewl.

new players WILL NOT have a good score, they need to learn the game. but they cant really, and after getting kicked from 2-3 games they probably dont want to try furthermore. its not a good feeling youre left with after getting kicked.

of course, they shouldnt join the league games, but its not a problem of only league games.



beeing afk and teamkilling should be the ONLY reasons to kick someone. both should be detectable in the map.

Quote:beeing afk and teamkilling should be the ONLY reasons to kick someone. both should be detectable in the map.

Quote:The ease and frequency in which people get kicked is one of the biggest problems with Btanks, CERTAINLY orders of magnitude worse than HB ever could be

GooglyBoogly Wrote:you say teamkill, I call it a deny.

A generic teamkill = kick also has issues.

With afk, they can pass control to another player - so afk = kick isn't always foolproof either.

Yes, the current system has issues, but it is flexible as well. Remember there is no vote required to kick yourself - you can always leave.

Griefing and intentional feeding are also bans/kicks for games I am present, but this is not something that can be auto detected.

The main problem I see is that people often don't bother to vote. If every time someone created an innapropriate kick vote they voted -no, this wouldn't happen so much. But that isn't a fault of the mapmakers, and pausing the game requiring everyone to vote would break gameflow and would lead to other abuses.

Basically easy kicks are a fault of the majority, and if the majority of players in your game are being dicks, then it doesn't really matter how the kick system works.

GooglyBoogly Wrote:

Quote:beeing afk and teamkilling should be the ONLY reasons to kick someone. both should be detectable in the map.

you say teamkill, I call it a deny.

A generic teamkill = kick also has issues.

With afk, they can pass control to another player - so afk = kick isn't always foolproof either.

Yes, the current system has issues, but it is flexible as well. Remember there is no vote required to kick yourself - you can always leave.

Griefing and intentional feeding are also bans/kicks for games I am present, but this is not something that can be auto detected.

Quote:The ease and frequency in which people get kicked is one of the biggest problems with Btanks, CERTAINLY orders of magnitude worse than HB ever could be

The main problem I see is that people often don't bother to vote. If every time someone created an innapropriate kick vote they voted -no, this wouldn't happen so much. But that isn't a fault of the mapmakers, and pausing the game requiring everyone to vote would break gameflow and would lead to other abuses.

Basically easy kicks are a fault of the majority, and if the majority of players in your game are being dicks, then it doesn't really matter how the kick system works.


EDITED: for clarity

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