KamiKaze

[ChatEnChaleur]

Hey, i need some tricks about kamikaze.

I tryed twice to begin with a tinker + small explosion. Its a good way to make money and i think you all know that.

but, when the game passed one hour, i sell everything and buy an infernal tank with a laser. but im still too weak (one time i was enuff strong..) to beat my opponents.

So i need help about this, is it better to build factory (soon or later during the game), get weapon, speed pack... or something,

any suggestion ??

[TKF]

I used the Teleport Breaker to lets incoming guys came at me before it was changed and no longer affected the cp's. Well that tactic is no longer possible...

Otherwise plain simple exploder + explosives are a way of going suicider. Effective against slow ground tanks, especially good counter against rooted guards.

Skill teleport first, then reconstruct. Don't skill the useless explosive skill, level 1 or 2 on emp skill is quite useful to use.

[Batto]

Bad thing about exploder is that to be really usefull, you need to make multikills all the time. Why? Because otherwise you will be just a plain feeder AND your only income comes from killing tanks (and creeps around them) so you need way more tank kills then any other has and in comparison much less deaths. This is so hard that most of the time exploders will end up being feeders for the enemy, so that enemy gets stronger and it gets easier for those to take out the normal tanks on the exploder's team.

As you can see, i dont want an exploder in my team.

Isnt it usefull then? Oh yes it is usefull, but not as a starting tank. When you are going down and you do not make enough money to collect good weapons and tanks to defend your base, just go for exploder and you will catch up very fast (enemies will be worth 3/2 or 4/3 or even 2/1 of what you are worth).

You can see this yourself by just looking at the enemys tank at the moment you are planning on changing from exploder to tank. You will almost never have enough gold to get same value tank as your enemy has.

[ChatEnChaleur]

Well, you guys are right. Exploder isnt a good technique and I prefer to start with a tank. But it's still funny

And btw, i dont really know about the Tleport Breaker, how does it work really (i never used it) ??. If one of my enemies is an exploder, how can i make him useless ??

[Prog]

Otherwise plain simple exploder + explosives are a way of going suicider. Effective against slow ground tanks, especially good counter against rooted guards.

Skill teleport first, then reconstruct. Don't skill the useless explosive skill, level 1 or 2 on emp skill is quite useful to use.

I disagree with you, due to the fact that i think reconstruct is not that important, but explosive skill is really one of the most important ones (with teleport). The main reason is, that as an exploder you have to keep your bounty as low as possible (that's why you should never buy a teleporter, or upgrade your explosives while you could kill your enemys without that upgrade). I liked playing exploder + explosive -> factory, but that isn't possible any more (which i really don't like), becouse it adds a permanent income to your kills. Up to now i didn't try exploder in 8.36 often enough to be able to give really good advices, but generally its important to know if and where your enemys placed teleport brakers and imagine the range quite correctly to adept your teleporting, or if you can't, switch to helicopter with explosives, or sell explosives to switch strategy at all (which you have to do against well playing opponents - that's why i rarely use exploder against those).

[Batto]

@chatenchaleur: Teleport breaker is this centurys best invention. It allows you to relocate incoming teleporters and hit and stun them. So if an enemy of yours is exploder, it is the best item to get! (and most funny, most ppl dont really know it and go lik "omg! wtf! this cant be!.." and they get completly useless )

Most simple and maybe obvious example: when you have are at the stage where you are attacking enemies base at the front. Just place a breaker at the side where the trees are for example and stand a bit more still to make you seem like an easy target. Exploder jumps in, dies and gets relocated. Explosion gets relocated too and you type in all-chat your most evil laugh. Do NOT forget the evil laugh!

[Exodus]

The Breaker works like this:
When the target of an enemy teleport is within the range of a Breaker, the enemy will be relocated after the teleport, he will be teleported directly to the position of the Breaker and he gets stunned. So you should place the breaker at a position where you think he will most likely teleport to.

Its also quite handy when you are a Guard and they have an Exploder, this way you can make sure he wont kill you with his teleport-suicide.

[Batto]

So you should place the breaker at a position where you think he will most likely teleport to.

At a position IN RANGE OF where he will most likely teleport to.

A little nuance, but for new players a world of difference i think.

[Exodus]

Hm, yeah, you're right

[SirJoghurt]

any suggestion ??

yes...learn play with a "normal" Tank Strategy and stop bitching games :roll:

[ChatEnChaleur]

any suggestion ??

yes...learn play with a "normal" Tank Strategy and stop bitching games :roll:

hmm thx for ur comment...



btw, what is the range of the tele Breaker ???
And, if i understand, if i go mid, i should place the teleport breaker near the Goblin trader ? or naer the CP ?

[Batto]

Near the trader. Just a place you dont go to (often), but it still has to be within reach. The range isnt that far, but i cant say exactly how much it is.

[ChatEnChaleur]

Near the trader. Just a place you dont go to (often), but it still has to be within reach. The range isnt that far, but i cant say exactly how much it is.

alright ! thx for help, ill remember to Evillaugh :twisted:

[ChatEnChaleur]

OMG !! I finally tried the Teleport Breaker ! it rocks for 300 gold ty for ur help !


and btw, Batto, I tried to use Fire arrows and flamer. You right, its really strong, less range, but more dps !!