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Remake Psycho laser
#1
Well it is one of the most unused items I have ever seen in the game. In my entire life playing hundreds of games I have only seen 1 game with a person using a psycho laser (which was me <,<). I wanted to test out this unloved laser and was quite disappointed with the results. A supercell would have been a much better choice for the same price, or for 5k more I could have got a better laser.

I can see why no one uses it, I just don't get the point of it. Why would you get a psycho laser when there is much better choices for a mid-range high tier weapon? Heck why is psycho laser yet another mid-range high tier weapon to begin with? There is enough as is!

There already enough mid-range high tier weapons, there is a low range high tier weapons .....but there is no high tier long range weapon. The highest grade long range weapon so far is the acid cannon which is nothing in comparison with a supercell or frost laser. I would like to see psycho laser remade, maybe lower the damage and give it long range so at least late game can have more variety then a mid-range orgy with the occasional short range carrion. Also this will make psycho laser a viable alternative that offers SOMETHING DIFFERENT for a change.

I know there is a lot of hate for the "noob-range" weapons but it is rather unfair that mid-range get all the love in the late tier department. Regardless, I don't want this to be an lr debate so one way or the other, I hope psycho laser gets modified into something people would want to use more regardless of its range.

P.S PLEASE DO NOT GET PSYCHO LASER MIXED UP WITH PSYCHO MAGIC WHEN REPLYING IN THIS THREAD!
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#2
True that psycho lazer need change.

(and concerning the psycho magic, the upgrad of 2500 gold is too low...)
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#3
I agree...the PsychoLaser is the one of the most unpopular weapon in BT and they must be better maybe. In the end-game, a lot of ppl buy only the three weapons...Supercell, SoC and Frostlaser. They don't buy the PsychoLaser, because they think "Oh...I need only 5k Gold for the SoC/Frostlaser"...or they buy the Supercell. Supercell has projectiles and a 1050range..that's why they buy the Supercell...me too if I get a SkyFortress xDD.
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#4
In my opinion psycho laser is way better for sky fortress than supercell. The range is more similar to the sky fortress ultimate range.
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#5
Actually the level 1 of ulti concerning the sky fort has 800 range but when we reach this tank, the ulti has greater range ^__^

In order to make this weapon more interesting and specific. what about making it a mode weapon air/ ground. Player would have to swap all the time but the bonus of damage may be great :p
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#6
oooo thats interesting. I got some crazy ideas, yes they are a bit psycho but it is a "psycho laser" right?

1. ) Make it a switch type with titan only damage laser for huge damage! Can switch to normal mode for much lower damage. Finally a reason NOT to choose a Titan... interesting
2. ) Lower the damage dramatically, change the sprite of the projectiles, give it 0.1sec cooldown, give it x4 projectiles and call it a psycho gatling gun

I love the second idea >.>
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#7
Althend Wrote:Actually the level 1 of ulti concerning the sky fort has 800 range but when we reach this tank, the ulti has greater range ^__^

Sometimes I ask myself if you even play the map. Check the sky fort ultimate range again please. It's 800 max.
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#8
800 range really? When playing, it blocks often people above 800 range. some weapon can't even reach the target O_o

Maybe I am blind :p
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#9
Level,Mana,Duration,Range
1 40 2.4 sec. 500
2 50 3.0 sec. 575
3 60 3.6 sec. 650
4 70 4.2 sec. 725
5 80 4.8 sec. 800
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#10
I am blinddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#11
Yes theory crafting makes psycho laser plausible, but in practice no one uses it because its just useless. I still have yet to see one sky fortress in my life wield a psycho laser, HECK I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE PERSON IN MY LIFE WIELD A PSYCHO LASER WITH ANY TANK!

Why would you save so much just to cut short of a frost laser. I have just tried psycho laser a second time and again I am really upset, it just wished it had longer range.

Ahum.... Can this topic go away from sky fortress and back to psycho laser please?
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#12
Teo_live Wrote:Ahum.... Can this topic go away from sky fortress and back to psycho laser please?

It cannot because the sky fortress is the best reason to buy a psycho laser. With frost laser you lose dps while using the ultimate, with swarm of chaos you risk not hitting at all while using the ultimate. Hence you should get the psycho laser if you plan to stay sky fortress.
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#13
but the most still buy Darkness with 750 range and costs with 15k+5k compard with Bombs (800) range (if enough ground tanks)
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#14
.. but why do you want to compare the psycholaser tho sky fort only? if it fits only for one tank in comparison to it's ulti it's just a useless weapon.

the same you could say to other weaps. who cares about a weap which fits perfekt to a ult only? the game doesnt mean to hide, port and use ulti do do the max dam.
a weapon should be helpfull any cases. a frostlaser may lack dps for costs in comparison to a psycholaser but could be more efficient the rest of the time to do dam earliere without getting hit by enemys most chosen shortrange weaps.
supercell is expensive.. yeah.
but did u ever try to get as much as possible in lategame for the whole team? every titan is pissed if u got enough. the port and speed overtime couldnt match with this range if the others cant get highranged weaps. efforts skilled player anyway.
i got a situation where we all got titans and they just fortress. the massed their supercells and we got no chance.. just koordinated attacks did hurt but overtime we lost cause they did the dam before we did.
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#15
AGGInator Wrote:.. but why do you want to compare the psycholaser tho sky fort only? if it fits only for one tank in comparison to it's ulti it's just a useless weapon.
Exactly

And even as a sky fortress everybody prefers the much overused supercell. I would be suprised if anyone even bothers using a psycho laser, yet alone use it well. It is just too redundant for anyone to be bothered with...
Psycho laser I can safely say is the ONLY weapon in the game that never ever gets used. Hopefully this will change when/if psycho laser gets remade
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#16
AGGInator Wrote:.. but why do you want to compare the psycholaser tho sky fort only? if it fits only for one tank in comparison to it's ulti it's just a useless weapon.

the same you could say to other weaps. who cares about a weap which fits perfekt to a ult only? the game doesnt mean to hide, port and use ulti do do the max dam.
a weapon should be helpfull any cases.


1.It does not fit only a certain tank/spell, but it fits it best. It's not like it gets totally useless in any other circumstance. It's also the only viable follow-up to a 888 range path (confusion, fire magic for example). Why should I get a 1k range weapon if I have to get to 888 range anyway? -> better go for 850 range...and I don't think you'll claim those 888 range weapons are useless.

2. A weapon should definitely not be useful in all cases. I doubt you'd argue that a poison magic is helpful in all cases. To be honest the short range weapons efficiency is very very limited. Every range type should be usefullin some cases (tanks/strategies) and less useful in others (and this is true for all current weapons).

After all I don't see the reasons for what you are aiming for: Why should we limit the options in late game to super short range and 1k range only? Why should there be no midrange for the (probably few) tanks that benefit from midrange?

Teo_live Wrote:Psycho laser I can safely say is the ONLY weapon in the game that never ever gets used.

I use it.Wink
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#17
Generally I'm against weapons with very low cooldown cuz they are not really living up to their dps count if you take the 0.01 sec hardcoded disadvantage with several types of weapons in combination you might experience that your dps is doing 3-12% less than it should do, depending on the speed and the range you are from the target the weapons won't fire at the 0.01 buff threshold.
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#18
Prog Wrote:
Teo_live Wrote:Psycho laser I can safely say is the ONLY weapon in the game that never ever gets used.

I use it.Wink
OMG FINALLY SOMEONE THAT USES IT! ....one of the few in this world but nevertheless >.>

Ahum, back on topic. Not only is psycho laser an unloved weapon with good reason, but it also yet another boring mid range weapon in the high cost department. Hopefully at the very least they change the range (and the unoriginal sprite that is a complete rip off to psycho magic)
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