IlPalazzo Wrote:guest Wrote:I dont see how it was insulting their intentions. If their intentions are dishonest than how else can you shed a light on it? All i did was paint a picture and illuminate the possibilities. The comparisons between the situations are the real disturbing problems.
So you think all twelve members of the DevTeam discussed the topic of HB for the purpose of asking "How can we screw over and piss off a substantial part of our community?"
Postby BENNIE.FM on Sun 01 Nov 09, 01:23
sorry yes i know it is 
i just hate hb that much haha
and its taking over the btanks community thats i don't give a f~~~ about hb
Re: 5k / HB Discussion
Postby BENNIE.FM on Tue 28 Jul 09, 09:07
GAY HB STORY HB IS GAY REALLY GAY WORST THING TO EVER HIT THE BTANKS COMMUNITY
5k/HB builds (spamposts)
Postby BENNIE.FM on Mon 26 Oct 09, 01:20
who cares its hb anything can happen in this stupid mode :lol:
Re: 5k/HB builds
Postby BENNIE.FM on Thu 29 Oct 09, 12:32
stupid topic imo anyway don't need to teach people how to play these silly modes ^^
Re: 5k/HB builds (spamposts)
Postby BENNIE.FM on Fri 30 Oct 09, 07:47
why would you teach people to play such a stupid mode ^^give them more strategies to play this unbalanced version of bt make more people addicted to it shit topic
Re: 5k/HB builds (spamposts)
Postby psycho_dmr on Fri 30 Oct 09, 18:49
we're trying to get a solution for that problem bennie, but trolling/flaming doesnt work here and even if its a funmode, it is in the map an ppl can post strats for hb here...
i think alot of negative emotions like bennies obvious statment had alot to with the removal of HB and than psycho posting that there will be a solution for that problem is equally disturbing. I wonder what the solution to the problem Bennie was describing really was? I think hate of HB had alot to do with its removal. I dont understand where all that negativity was coming from. No one was making you people play or like HB. I guess hating a mode can be a good enough reason to remove it if youre an editor.
IlPalazzo Wrote:guest Wrote:I dont see how it was insulting their intentions. If their intentions are dishonest than how else can you shed a light on it? All i did was paint a picture and illuminate the possibilities. The comparisons between the situations are the real disturbing problems.
So you think all twelve members of the DevTeam discussed the topic of HB for the purpose of asking "How can we screw over and piss off a substantial part of our community?"
Re: 5k/HB builds
Postby psycho_dmr on Wed 28 Oct 09, 15:25
Althend wrote:
BENNIE.FM wrote:who cares its hb anything can happen in this stupid mode :lol:
Hahahah so true. :p
+1 ;D
if you want a fast game, play rush... hb sucks!
more negativity.
IlPalazzo Wrote:guest Wrote:I dont see how it was insulting their intentions. If their intentions are dishonest than how else can you shed a light on it? All i did was paint a picture and illuminate the possibilities. The comparisons between the situations are the real disturbing problems.
So you think all twelve members of the DevTeam discussed the topic of HB for the purpose of asking "How can we screw over and piss off a substantial part of our community?"
No i dont think that. I dont think they were trying to hurt screw over or piss anyone off. What i do think is that they hated the mode, and hated the mode more and more as its popularity grew. I think that hate grew to the point where they stopped caring about other people and their hate for HB soon carried over to the players who played HB. Its a vicious cycle and it culminated in the removal of HB.
Thats what i think. The evidence is all the there. You can make up your own minds about what happened.
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guest Wrote:i think alot of negative emotions like bennies obvious statment had alot to with the removal of HB and than psycho posting that there will be a solution for that problem is equally disturbing. I wonder what the solution to the problem Bennie was describing really was? I think hate of HB had alot to do with its removal. I dont understand where all that negativity was coming from. No one was making you people play or like HB. I guess hating a mode can be a good enough reason to remove it if youre an editor.
That's quite an extensive troll-quote list from Bennie. :lol: I agree, there was a lot of bias in the decision and little mud-flinging like that didn't help create constructive debate on whether removing HB was a good idea or not - or even necessary.
And yes, psycho doesn't like HB and tending the community is probably the last thing on his to-do list, but that's HIS viewpoint - and he's entitled to it. Yes, the red in his name does command authority - but his views doesn't necessarily conform everyone's views 100%. This was the point of forming the DevTeam, to grab a more thorough approach on how to change the game and dilute out the bias. Yes - despite this there was still a heavy bias against HB in this group - but that doesn't mean everyone has the same goals, views, and priorities in their mind on what's best for the game... Go dig up what the other DevTeam members say before jumping to the conclusion that they all think HB is the cancer killing BT and that they all want HBers to go play Battleships:
Velocity2k
Paladon
Exodus
Bob666
Saiyuki
eSVau
DerSatan
Prog
Frechheit
sam_ach
Metaller
If everyone in this group hated HB as much as Bennie - perhaps you would like to explain why some of these DevTeamers are approving your posts?
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IlPalazzo Wrote:guest Wrote:i think alot of negative emotions like bennies obvious statment had alot to with the removal of HB and than psycho posting that there will be a solution for that problem is equally disturbing. I wonder what the solution to the problem Bennie was describing really was? I think hate of HB had alot to do with its removal. I dont understand where all that negativity was coming from. No one was making you people play or like HB. I guess hating a mode can be a good enough reason to remove it if youre an editor.
That's quite an extensive troll-quote list from Bennie. :lol: I agree, there was a lot of bias in the decision and little mud-flinging like that didn't help create constructive debate on whether removing HB was a good idea or not - or even necessary.
And yes, psycho doesn't like HB and tending the community is probably the last thing on his to-do list, but that's HIS viewpoint - and he's entitled to it. Yes, the red in his name does command authority - but his views doesn't necessarily conform everyone's views 100%. This was the point of forming the DevTeam, to grab a more thorough approach on how to change the game and dilute out the bias. Yes - despite this there was still a heavy bias against HB in this group - but that doesn't mean everyone has the same goals, views, and priorities in their mind on what's best for the game... Go dig up what the other DevTeam members say before jumping to the conclusion that they all think HB is the cancer killing BT and that they all want HBers to go play Battleships:
Velocity2k
Paladon
Exodus
Bob666
Saiyuki
eSVau
DerSatan
Prog
Frechheit
sam_ach
Metaller
If everyone in this group hated HB as much as Bennie - perhaps you would like to explain why some of these DevTeamers are approving your posts?
eSVau is an easy one. He still claims HB was never proved as being a popular mode. Paladon is Anti HB. Psycho is anti HB. Exodus and Bob666, to my understanding their leaving is what gave the other editors the opportunity to remove HB? Maybe im wrong on that one. The rest i dunno. Ill have to look into more deeply.
Why are they approving my posts? Its not because they like me or my viewpoints. Its more to do with this. The illusion of neutrality and fear of being seen as an abusive biased forum. Why else would they need to make you a moderator? Clearly they cant judge for themselves what is right. The disturbing facts are that negative emotions and hate played a role in removing HB. How large a role? You decide. What bothers me is that a few sour apples can ruin it for the rest of us.
Re: Wtf happened to HB?
Postby khEg on Tue 19 Jan 10, 00:52
guest wrote:Ummmm i dont want to post on my account here cause i dont wanna get banned for voicing an opinion contrary to the admins, so im typing this at the library.
Why would some1 ban you for having a different opinion as an admin. This would be abuse in its best.
Believe me i know exactly what the editors are thinking and whats going on here. You dislike my opinions you dislike me and youre yearning for an excuse to get rid of me. But you dont want to be seen as biased abusers of forum power because that will look badly on you. So, youre just waiting for me to fuck up so you can claim to have a legitimate reason for getting rid of me. It will usually be something like spam or trolling with little or no warning.
Im very glad that other people are catching on, ive been seeing more willingness to express opinions and ive seen more people challenging things that the admins and editors are saying. You dont have to accept what some people say if you believe they are wrong or trying to deceive you. Thats the greatest thing a person can do with his life. Fight for truth.
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guest Wrote:Believe me i know exactly what the editors are thinking and whats going on here. You dislike my opinions you dislike me and youre yearning for an excuse to get rid of me. But you dont want to be seen as biased abusers of forum power because that will look badly on you. So, youre just waiting for me to fuck up so you can claim to have a legitimate reason for getting rid of me. It will usually be something like spam or trolling with little or no warning.
Me? I would love nothing more than you to stick around... Before the removal of HB there were about a dozen or two that frequented these boards - and since then that has shrunk considerably to just a few. Yes, most of these folks still play Btanks and they're still quite active in the clan-community - but their willingness to come to these boards has disappeared because the overall atmosphere around here is that they're "noobs," "homos," "they should go play Battleships," etc... Meh, it's a good reason not to come here - but nothing constructive will come out of silence. Then again, neither will throwing around insults and flaming.
You're right though - a lack of thorough discussion and bias toward one side of the argument was probably why HB was removed so quickly - before figuring out how to optimize normal and how bring the community together.
guest Wrote:Im very glad that other people are catching on, ive been seeing more willingness to express opinions and ive seen more people challenging things that the admins and editors are saying. You dont have to accept what some people say if you believe they are wrong or trying to deceive you. Thats the greatest thing a person can do with his life. Fight for truth.
I agree, but this world isn't black and white.
I always have and still disagree with the DevTeam and Admins decision to remove HB because I think it was a terrible move for the game's health and community - even if some of their reasoning was justified...
I disagree with you because think all their intentions are sinister.
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guest Wrote:eSVau is an easy one. He still claims HB was never proved as being a popular mode. There's missing an importan word: most, it never has been proven that it is the most popular mode which has been claimed.
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eSVau Wrote:guest Wrote:eSVau is an easy one. He still claims HB was never proved as being a popular mode. There's missing an importan word: most, it never has been proven that it is the most popular mode which has been claimed.
This is a moot point isn't it? It's already been said HB was very popular, so much so that the communities between Normal and HB were pretty split - and arguably, still is. Was this not the rationale for advocating it's removal and possibly making normal more faster/action-based to bring the majority of the community together?
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IlPalazzo Wrote:guest Wrote:Believe me i know exactly what the editors are thinking and whats going on here. You dislike my opinions you dislike me and youre yearning for an excuse to get rid of me. But you dont want to be seen as biased abusers of forum power because that will look badly on you. So, youre just waiting for me to fuck up so you can claim to have a legitimate reason for getting rid of me. It will usually be something like spam or trolling with little or no warning.
Me? I would love nothing more than you to stick around... Before the removal of HB there were about a dozen or two that frequented these boards - and since then that has shrunk considerably to just a few. Yes, most of these folks still play Btanks and they're still quite active in the clan-community - but their willingness to come to these boards has disappeared because the overall atmosphere around here is that they're "noobs," "homos," "they should go play Battleships," etc... Meh, it's a good reason not to come here - but nothing constructive will come out of silence. Then again, neither will throwing around insults and flaming.
You're right though - a lack of thorough discussion and bias toward one side of the argument was probably why HB was removed so quickly - before figuring out how to optimize normal and how bring the community together.
guest Wrote:Im very glad that other people are catching on, ive been seeing more willingness to express opinions and ive seen more people challenging things that the admins and editors are saying. You dont have to accept what some people say if you believe they are wrong or trying to deceive you. Thats the greatest thing a person can do with his life. Fight for truth.
I agree, but this world isn't black and white.
I always have and still disagree with the DevTeam and Admins decision to remove HB because I think it was a terrible move for the game's health and community - even if some of their reasoning was justified...
I disagree with you because think all their intentions are sinister.
Yea maybe we do disagree on some things. I think removing HB was incredibly self serving to the people who disliked the mode to say the least. Its the most selfish act ive seen in btanks history.
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IlPalazzo Wrote:eSVau Wrote:guest Wrote:eSVau is an easy one. He still claims HB was never proved as being a popular mode. There's missing an importan word: most, it never has been proven that it is the most popular mode which has been claimed.
This is a moot point isn't it? It's already been said HB was very popular, so much so that the communities between Normal and HB were pretty split - and arguably, still is. Was this not the rationale for advocating it's removal and possibly making normal more faster/action-based to bring the majority of the community together?
I only wanted to clear out that i doubt it was the most popular as stated, there's a different between popular and most popular and i meant to argue vs the most part. I dont wanted to be quote false.
But like you (IlPalazzo) told it doesn't matter whether minority or majority. Hb is gone and wont return (hcl 5h was remove two month ago) and you will not change this fact qweqqweq aka guest.
You are welcome to propose improvements for normal mode 
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I only wanted to clear out that i doubt it was the most popular as stated, there's a different between popular and most popular and i meant to argue vs the most part. I dont wanted to be quote false.
But like you (IlPalazzo) told it doesn't matter whether minority or majority. Hb is gone and wont return (hcl 5h was remove two month ago) and you will not change this fact qweqqweq aka guest.
You are welcome to propose improvements for normal mode [/quote]
i told you there was nothing we could say or do. The minds were made up, the decision was made, and all the justifications were just smoke screens to soften the blow. Hb was the most popular mode, and many of your friends were afraid HB would take over the btanks community. Im sorry but ill never give a suggestion to a person who wrongs me. You should be ashamed of yourself for asking suggestions from the people you wronged. Youre a bad person.
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eSVau Wrote:But like you (IlPalazzo) told it doesn't matter whether minority or majority. Hb is gone and wont return (hcl 5h was remove two month ago) and you will not change this fact qweqqweq aka guest.
You are welcome to propose improvements for normal mode
:lol: ... You want him to propose improvements after you essentially called his opinions and views useless around here? ... That's a little insincere, eh?
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annabot wanted to compare how popular hb was. but noone else wanted to help
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IlPalazzo Wrote::lol: ... You want him to propose improvements after you essentially called his opinions and views useless around here? ... That's a little insincere, eh? Yes, i'm evil
Marvin Wrote:The first ten million years were the worst and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million years I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline
eSVau Wrote:IlPalazzo Wrote::lol: ... You want him to propose improvements after you essentially called his opinions and views useless around here? ... That's a little insincere, eh? Yes, i'm evil
Re: Why do you play High Bounty?
Postby BENNIE.FM on Sun 01 Nov 09, 01:22
I have the best resolution xD agree with me delete hb from btanks for good.
1st:anyone who plays old map good for them
how ever then we can play 8.66 with no hb less hb ~~noobs
2nd when new tanks come out and new items new adjustments to the game people will stop playing 8.65 with the current hb system and will have to turn to normal no hb !!!!!yes
COM ON DO THIS !!!!!
Its amazing that you think youre going to attract more players with this kind of mentality.
Re: Why do you play High Bounty?
Postby psycho_dmr on Sun 15 Nov 09, 15:24
yes hb have corrupted bt. yes removing hb from bt will stop ppl playing it maybe, yes there are many ppl who like hb outside.
HB corrupted Battletanks?
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if we not remove hb, in a few month some ppl will discover really imba tactics and everybody cries we should remove this and that from the map or make this and that stronger/weaker for hb -
but everything would be fine if ppl would play normal. so we cut here and remove hb now. thats all. many ppl will hate us for that, maybe stop playing bt, but at all this is the only way to prevent a cutted community & the dead of BT. (imho)
Youve got to be joking? Prevent a cutted community? Death of Btanks by leaving in HB?
Postby psycho_dmr on Mon 16 Nov 09, 12:36
mooneye we know that this is the reason why hb is farvored. but bt is balanced to be played in normal mode. if you dont like normal mode, then dont play bt. or try to help that normal mode get better.
Doomhammer & mooneye: if you really want a fast/action game, then try -cv and rush for cps, either you'll win very fast or you'll get a nice cp-fight.
ah, and normal isnt boring, you just have to be more defensive then in hb  rule #1 in bt(normal): don't die.
If you dont like normal mode than dont play bt? I cant believe you actually think that.
Re: Why do you play High Bounty?
Postby eSVau on Thu 19 Nov 09, 23:29
Lezowski wrote:This forum is biased against hb anyway.
Maybe it's not because the majority likes HB as suggested otherwise, but rather dislikes HB 
Your rationale is incredibly stupid and inexperienced. Have you even played on bnet and looked at game lists and joined games?
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guest Wrote:eSVau Wrote:IlPalazzo Wrote::lol: ... You want him to propose improvements after you essentially called his opinions and views useless around here? ... That's a little insincere, eh? Yes, i'm evil Its amazing that you think youre going to attract more players with this kind of mentality.
Well, some people are attracted to abusive bad-boys... Don't judge his ways. :lol:
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"IlPalazzo Wrote:Well, some people are attracted to abusive bad-boys... Don't judge his ways. :lol:
We all know you are attracted to bad-boys IlPalazzo
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