Share mode abuse - A player gets unfairly strong.

[TKF]

I played some games where the opponent did turn on share mode, and then the host get 2-3 times his start money, cuz at least 1 guy did give him all the money at start in share mode. It's kinda suck when the host get heavy tank at once in normal game more -.-
Also I've seen insane weapons on red player, which instantly owned the other team and they win in about 10-15 min. A Few who abuses the cheat this way, ruins the share game. Also 2 infernals with frost laser in a urush game is quite unfair. Although pooling makes other players "inactive" tinkers, it's like concentrated leavers gold on 1 player. Even if they might feed, the results of a super strong player is unfair.


A solution to this annoying problem, is that if host types -share, perhaps sharing gold should be allowed after after 2 min, when the message appear, share will be unlocked if allowed by host. At least 2 min delay should in some degree stall this tactic. If they going to pool, perhaps it's worth the 2 min.


Someone who has other opinions? I don't see this as a tactic, but more as a abuse.

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Poll added

[Althend]

I think that share mode sucks... Even after 2 min, it is an easy way to destroy a game....

[Gammagulp]

I also experienced it, i even saved a replay of a game- cause the host got 6.000 Starting gold, and said to me its, cause the other team got a leaver ...
Its useless to say, that the guy who gave him that money instantly leave after that pooling action.

We can Talk much about things who are a bit unbalanced, but that pooling is really annoying.

My idea is, that if you can count the total tankvalue, as u do by -stats or calculating the killing money, influence the money you can give (only if that is possible).

Maybe if you have 5000 Tank value you can maximum spend 10% - = 500Gold - dont know weather this is possible.

[SirJoghurt]

A Few who abuses the cheat this way,

which cheat ? its a command you can normaly tip in...

ruins the share game.

doesn't share mode always ruins..a game ? where is the sense of "shareing"
earn your own money.. or stay n00b


A solution to this annoying problem, is that if host types -share, perhaps sharing gold should be allowed after after 2 min, when the message appear, share will be unlocked if allowed by host. At least 2 min delay should in some degree stall this tactic. If they going to pool, perhaps it's worth the 2 min.


Someone who has other opinions? I don't see this as a tactic, but more as a abuse.

yes take the -share command out of the game, problem figured..no more "share abuse" again :mrgreen:

[TKF]

It's annoying when you join a game, and a idiot host ruins the game by using -share mode, and fucks up game when his friends gives him a lot of gold -.-

I hate share mode when it can be abused this way. Maybe it should be removed? Poll added!

[smelly]

Pooling is nothing short of cheating and I think it is unneccessary. I played a game recently against some poolers. One guy started with a medium laser and an air ship on 10k. It made the game a wee bit more challenging, though eventually myself and another skilled player worked the poolers over. Yeah, it is possible to beat them but it's certainly an unfair advantage for the poolers which I personally feel is lame.

[Tribulation]

There's a basic problem here: as long as the option to turn on sharing is included in the game, it cannot be considered "illegal" or cheating, it's an option some may like and other's don't. In Battle Tanks, there's no central institution for establishing rules of what is acceptable and what is not, unlike in DotA, where you've got the TDA rules you can pretty much always call on. They have precise rules of what is considered pooling/boosting and what is not, as you cannot give money to another player, but you can give almost any item to another player. Thus, there are two possible consequences, imho: either the option is taken out of the game, if a considerable number of players here want it out, or you would have to ask the host whether or not sharing will be enabled before each game starts. But as long as the option's there, you cannot automatically assume that it has to be disabled, else it would be senseless ;-)
Of course it's lame if you're up against a Big Tank from the start on, but it's not cheating.

[DerSatan]

nice...

you guys got bored, because theres nothing to talk about left?

host yourself and disable sharing. if you accidently wake up in a pub game and see sharing is allowed, give your gold to anyone and leave, explaining why sharing sucks. the other players will understand that, if the guy you gave the money isnt totally dumb.

its like the -wtf mode in dota. does it ruin the game? is it unbalanced? sure. but remove it? ehhm... why?

[Frechheit]

I would say the easiest thing is to remove the -share mode.

Its always a disadvantage in public games for people who plays alone and thats really often, cause when the host type -share mode he make that because he is playing with friends so. :?

[Tribulation]

Yup, hosting yourself solves the problem as well. By the way: I haven't had a game in which sharing was enabled forever, it doesn't happen that often, does it? We used it to lend small sums to each other way back in the old versions, e.g. if you died and were 200 short of a new weapon/tank, but neither me nor my mates ever enabled it since it has been turned off by default.

[RedNova]

Why not limit the amount of gold that can be send (let's say 100 * weapon upgrade level) and limit the number of times it can be used PER TEAM (like -kick and -giveup) for a limited period?

Should prove to be easy to code, and ramps up effectively. And it could allow some to send that "300 GOLD for laser" wheiners always ask about...

[Batto]

Its not whining, its teamplay (yes it can make a difference ) But i get your point!

[Frechheit]

In my opinion the solution of Rednova is really good. Gold Share with a limit of 500 or less i wouldnt say anything.
But than in -share mode please.^^
Without share is the best solution so far.