APC (yes an other tank suggestion)

[Visjeplus]

Hey guys,

I am struggling to edit the light tank model to make a new tank model for a new tank idea, but as my editing skills are really bad (never done it before), its not going that fast. So before I spend a lot more time on the model I would like to tell you of my idea.

I want to add a more creep force based tank. As at this moment the only real creep based and upgrade based tanks are the trader, the tinker and the exploder, at least these are the tanks that most often do the upgrading. But these are not real tanks.

So my suggestion is the APC (armoured personnel carrier).

As I said I am still busy with the model which will be a light tank base which is more wide and long with 6 wheels and the turrets to the side (if I’ll ever succeed) and maybe some more characteristic features.

The base profile is that of the shredder.
Cost: 3000
Speed: 300
HP: 3000
Armor: 3
As I would like to be able to take it as a starting tank.

The basics of all the skills is adding creeps into the tank to man the different weapons in the tank. This can be done just like the orc pions can go into a orc farm, at least I hope this is possible to program.
So:

Skill 1: Flamer weapon
Level 1: Add a flamer creep to the tank to man one of the flamers in the tank adding a creep based weapon to the tank of range 600 (with appropriate damage according to the damage equation and the basic tank cannon which every other tank has), this creep based weapon should be subjected to force upgrades and so become stronger per weapon upgrade level
Level 2: Upgrade the flamer to a heavy flamer (this just adds another 5% more of damage to the weapon)
Level 3: Add a second creep to the tank just as the first one, and so double the flamers in the tank as well.
Level 4: Upgrade the heavy flamers to napalm Flamers (this just adds another 5% more of damage to the weapon)
Level 5 : Upgrade the napalm flamers to heavy napalm Flamers (this just adds another 5% more of damage to the weapon)

These flamers should be based on the sides of the APC (some more editing of the model )

Skill 2: Machine gun
Level 1: Add a Machine gunner creep to the tank to man the top machine gun this will add a 950 range weapon to the tank (similar to the flamer)
Level 2: Upgrade the Machine gun to a heavy machine gun
Level 3: Add a second Machine gunner creep to the tank, this will add a second 950 range weapon to the tank.
Level 4: Upgrading the heavy machine gun to a double barrelled heavy machine gun (adding 5% damage)
Level 5: Upgrading the rounds of the machine gun to explosive rounds (which do a 20% AoE damage per hit)

Skill 3: Rocket launcher
Level 1: Add a Balista to the tank, this will add an activatable rocket to the tank with no stun but similar to the light tank and heavy tank rocket.
Level 2: Upgrade damage
Level 3: Add stun
Level 4: Add a second ballista to the tank, lowering the cooldown of the rocket
Level 5: Upgrading damage.

Skill 4: Flak cannon
Level 1: Add a creep flyer to the tank, which adds a flak cannon to the tank attacking only flyers with range 800.
Level 2: Add damage
Level 3: Add a second flyer to the tank.
Level 4: Maybe make the weapon changable from 800 range flyer only to 1050 building only
Level 5: add damage

Ultimate skill:
Level 1: Unload 1 creep from the tank, like the troop pack (these creeps will have changed to your creeps and so add money for its kills, but you will lose half the damage for the specific weapon)
Level 2: Unload 2 creep from the tank
Level 3: Unload 3 creep from the tank
Level 4: Unload 4 creep from the tank
Level 5: Unload 5 creep from the tank

All the weapon skills will have to be subjected to the upgrade of weapons and the tank itself may be subjected to the upgrade armor (not to the +1% HP increase per level) .

There are a lot more ideas I have, but I guess this is already enough for now. Now let’s hope I can make a good model. And hopefully there is a enthusiastic mapper who wants to try and get it running . And maybe 4 creep based skills is a little much and will make the tank a little boring.

Enough for now......

VisjePlus

Ps: other skill ideas:
-sniper gun
- active flamer skill (making a burning patch on the ground like the 8k sky tank) but damage based on flamer skill
- build a orc burrow with the creeps in it as a creep based tower

[psycho_dmr]

hm, sounds nice.. but will be lot of work and i dont know if it will be possible to get this tank balanced

[qweqqweq]

Check this idea out though. Your tank could either have 2 versions, a starter model like u suggested, or just change it to this:

hit points: similiar to the titan, maybe more...
speed: I don't know, at least as fast as the titan. whatever!
price: about the same as the titan
armor: i don't know, really high!
tech requirements: lvl 25 attack and armor

You give the tank the same or similiar abilities you described except that instead of creeps getting in the thing other tank pilots have to step out of their tanks to man the other guns! They had something like that in Halo.

The thing would be pretty bad ass, fully manned it could have the power of about 3 to 6 frost lazers short range, and at the other end, long range it could have an awesome siege gun, like a gauze cannon or somthing like that.

You could disable buyer's weapons while he's in it, or you could attach them to the tank at different spots, like have item slots one and two's weapons attach to the front corners, etc... But what you'd probably want to do (if you could figure out how to make it make any sense) is have the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th guy's items be used for it though. That way it doesn't get anywhere near its full power unless u get that last passenger, making teamwork essential.

If you wanted to you could make it so that each of the 4 passengers gets an ability to use that only they can use, but only the purchaser could drive it. So maybe the guys manning the flame throwers could click an ability that would temporarily increase their flame thrower's range and power. The guy at the top could lob grenades, or aim the seige gun. You could make it so that if it takes damage random pilots die and then that part is dissabled, or you could have them all die when the tank dies. I don't know, it would be really cool though whatever you did!

The reason why it would be so cool is that if you made it right then it would require a lot of teamwork to work well. And it would be hillarious when things went badly.

I think Battle Tanks definately needs somthing like that! (unless they made voltron tigers! That would also be really cool!)

[NoobStrike]

Euh... please no!!! no mega tanks into which others tanks go into... Spare me... Who controls the tank? What do others do while this mega tank moves forward...

Oh WAIT!!! I get it... it was a JOKE!!! just like the 2headed ogre from the WOW April fools joke!!! good 1 buddy.

[qweqqweq]

you're just jealous. i told you, the guy who buys it will control the direction. but the other guys who get in will have to get something else to do. i'm going to p.m. exodus right now about it. he'll probably name the tank after me he'll be so happy for the advice! you'll see, hopefully next version i'll be in it!

[psycho_dmr]

lol

[TKF]

qweqqweq tank?

[Vomitus]

Maybe QWERTY tanks will be better? An ultimate key-manager, this tank will use your skills as faster as it could! All you will need - is to move!

The next generation will be Formula1-QWERTY-Tank: you'll don't even need to move it because it will move for you - insanely fast and deadly!

And, btw, this tanks is already implemented! o_O
Just type -afkai...


lol

Oh, another idea! Make High Quarters to be purchasable and able to transform into a Goliath Tank! Another 4 players will combine together and make Battletrone Tank!
...And don't forget to create an artifact "Dart Vader's Laser Blade" with restriction to only robots can use it.

Of course, what is Battle Tanks without Ghosts? Yeah, yeah, those ghosts with nukes! A thin red dot, 5 seconds cast time - and half of the enemy base is down.

Well, will be hard to balance, but!!!
But our devs are pretty hard guys and I believe they can do everything! So, Visjeplus, don't stop! Keep making your model and I am beginning to draw some Annihilator Tripod models(don't even say you forget them, BTanks is nothing without them!)

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Oh, God, I am smashed of this ideas! ))))

[RedNova]

A five-part dinobot maybe, for very old-school teams :-)

Warning: Thread getting out of hand here!

[Vomitus]

It definitely should be Yogg-Sotot combined from Brain Slug, Hypno-Toad and Bender!

And, of course, add some water to the terrain and make the Great Boa!

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Btw, who remember Arcanum, there were Mechanical Arachnids - such kind of model could be used as an attacking unit for someone's skill(like ghosts or treants).
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...or make hordes of dr. Zoidbergs attacking each other instead of common creeps :mrgreen:
and they must walk sideways of course raising their claws upwards!
clotz-clotz!

[psycho_dmr]

wtf are you talking about here? pls b2t! ^^

[qweqqweq]

oh man vomitus, that was hillarious. I had a pretty good laugh when i read that last post of yours. thanx!

(But why can't the darth vader light saber come out of the hand of the fully assembled mega unit like in voltron?)

[LuckyD0g]

End Game "Tank"

Name: Inesent Child
Cost > Titan
HP: ~5000-10000
Speed: slow/medium
Model: units\critters\VillagerKid\VillagerKid

Teleporting spell;

Mines or Bomb;

Survivor (Passive):
Reduction from spells/weapons

Ulty (Passive):
Every 5 seconds use Silence(Disabler) in AOE ~1000-1300
Effects spells, normal attacks, weapons. Last on target 5sec.

[Felli]

End game tank with max 10000 hp? *Boom*

[horselance]

People here must be drunk while writing in this thread. How the hell all drunk... whatever... I hated all ideas here, joky and nonjoky...

[Visjeplus]

I hated all ideas here, joky and nonjoky...

I hope you mean, you didn't like the ideas (thats fine by me), but hating is a little over the top for my taste.

[qweqqweq]

thank you for your imput horselance.

when you are tooling around in your shiny new "QWEQQWEQ" tank next version i'm pretty sure that you're going to change your tune! i think that you're going to be pretty happy that i was generous enough to take some of my valuable time and enlighten everyone with my brilliant idea! i pm'd exodus with the a detailed description of the new team tank idea and you know what, i think he's pretty interested! he didn't exactly say so, but i definately think that he's going to make it. i mean, jesus, how could he not? think of how much more dynamic the game will be with just that one new tank option! i'm so excited!

Have a nice day sir :!:

[Prog]

That's not the proper language for this forum.

[horselance]

@qweqqweq
I thought you are making fun with that ideas. So if you got offended from my hatred of your ideas, you must be not be joking. So if i can think that as a joke, how pretty will that tank be, i can't imagine.

Please use a proper language in forum!

@ Visjeplus
I exclude your ideas, I could have commented it before, but i thought first Exodus or Bob must say something about the possibility of such a tank/abilities.