2010-08-29, 23:18:19
Okay, so I went back and did some analysis. I pulled random players that I remembered from my last 10 games, placed them into categories and pulled stats on them. This is what I found, of the 30 or so players I identified, at least 14 were solid, 6 were question marks and 9 were feeders or at least really noob players (didn't engage in team play, defend cps, suicided, didn't learn from their actions, etc.). **Note: It's worth mentioning that at least 60 players played in my last 10 games, and while I did not grab every good or question mark player, I did try to grab most feeders. They are over represented here, just for the purposes of stat comparison. My analysis does not suggest that we should remove 33% of players from league beta**
What I am trying to do is identify the K:D ratio that should be required for folks to enter League Beta. The highest 'feeder' % was 66% and the lowest good or decent player was 63%. Since the data I used is a cumulative total, I suspect that the player with 63% K:D, Dennyx_Omni, who played a perfectly good game today, has actually gotten better since he started League Beta. I checked and he's played almost 60 games. I don't have isolated stats for his last 10 or 20 games, but I guess his K:D would be most like 85-100+ %. If we remove him from the mix, the lowest K:D% is GEN_Schwarkzkopf at 81%.
Since I can personally vouch for these 2 categories of players based on my in-game experience, it seems like our cut-off should be be around 75%, probably no lower. That means that if your K:D is worse than 3:4 for your last 10 or 20 games you will need to play qualify in order to gain access to League Beta.
So let's apply this standard to the question mark players I identified. As it turns out, some of those players have really good stats so they were probably just having a bad game, which is fine. Some question mark players are clearly not ready for league beta, having 40ish% K:D. Another question mark player looks like he was just barely good enough to be playing in league beta.
Please apply this standard to players you encounter moving forward and give me feedback. I think if the map owners implement this, it will drastically help reduce feeders from league beta, as well as help feeders/noobs get better by playing in qualify - everybody wins.
Good or decent players:
name | ELO ( | overall average K:D | K:D % (if < 95%)
btank 1533 33:29
ORPG 1569 17:13
Dennyx_Omni 1454 14:22 63%
ShadowMeteor9.1 1527 39:33
General_Pwn 1506 20:23 86%
Subbaba 1678 43:16
killerfuerst 1566 30:29
entangL 1489 37:32
Soeldner 1545 23:20
ckibibi 1720 29:23
reddama 1514 18:32
willireichert 1582 33:24
adriankeke 1567 25:17
gen_schwarzkopf 1488 18:22 81%
Question mark:
ThinkTank.Klaus 12-27 1626 34:22
arrow_of_god 11-17 1492 17:20 85%
uLow.4.ever 19-25 1477 27:28
norbit 6-12 1443 7:16 43%
IrrerIvan 12-23 1487 15:36 42%
nobody-shadow 1490 13:17 76%
Feeders:
oormoo 10-64 1466 11:23 47%
parasympathetic 25-57 1478 9:34 26%
tonop 6-29 1469 9:20 45%
fiberoptik 8-23 1469 14:25 56%
a.c. 13-36 1469 9:28 32%
netzero 9-32 1496 10:15 66%
mykukusobig 9-43 1441 12:21 57%
Henker4u 42-71 1443 19:54 35%
killsalot 32-48 1368 6:17 35%
What I am trying to do is identify the K:D ratio that should be required for folks to enter League Beta. The highest 'feeder' % was 66% and the lowest good or decent player was 63%. Since the data I used is a cumulative total, I suspect that the player with 63% K:D, Dennyx_Omni, who played a perfectly good game today, has actually gotten better since he started League Beta. I checked and he's played almost 60 games. I don't have isolated stats for his last 10 or 20 games, but I guess his K:D would be most like 85-100+ %. If we remove him from the mix, the lowest K:D% is GEN_Schwarkzkopf at 81%.
Since I can personally vouch for these 2 categories of players based on my in-game experience, it seems like our cut-off should be be around 75%, probably no lower. That means that if your K:D is worse than 3:4 for your last 10 or 20 games you will need to play qualify in order to gain access to League Beta.
So let's apply this standard to the question mark players I identified. As it turns out, some of those players have really good stats so they were probably just having a bad game, which is fine. Some question mark players are clearly not ready for league beta, having 40ish% K:D. Another question mark player looks like he was just barely good enough to be playing in league beta.
Please apply this standard to players you encounter moving forward and give me feedback. I think if the map owners implement this, it will drastically help reduce feeders from league beta, as well as help feeders/noobs get better by playing in qualify - everybody wins.
Good or decent players:
name | ELO ( | overall average K:D | K:D % (if < 95%)
btank 1533 33:29
ORPG 1569 17:13
Dennyx_Omni 1454 14:22 63%
ShadowMeteor9.1 1527 39:33
General_Pwn 1506 20:23 86%
Subbaba 1678 43:16
killerfuerst 1566 30:29
entangL 1489 37:32
Soeldner 1545 23:20
ckibibi 1720 29:23
reddama 1514 18:32
willireichert 1582 33:24
adriankeke 1567 25:17
gen_schwarzkopf 1488 18:22 81%
Question mark:
ThinkTank.Klaus 12-27 1626 34:22
arrow_of_god 11-17 1492 17:20 85%
uLow.4.ever 19-25 1477 27:28
norbit 6-12 1443 7:16 43%
IrrerIvan 12-23 1487 15:36 42%
nobody-shadow 1490 13:17 76%
Feeders:
oormoo 10-64 1466 11:23 47%
parasympathetic 25-57 1478 9:34 26%
tonop 6-29 1469 9:20 45%
fiberoptik 8-23 1469 14:25 56%
a.c. 13-36 1469 9:28 32%
netzero 9-32 1496 10:15 66%
mykukusobig 9-43 1441 12:21 57%
Henker4u 42-71 1443 19:54 35%
killsalot 32-48 1368 6:17 35%