2010-08-30, 05:15:57
If a Kill:Death ratio standard is only applied to new players trying to get into the ranked bot, well okay, I'd say that's fine.
While I agree in principle with the idea, I would not apply it to existing ranked players as it could penalize pro support players; and thus is not a deterministic indicator of skill on it's own.
If you want an example of support view my Tournament Replay with Korea#2; it's a clear demonstration of how a player can provide good support, supply important consumables like tp breakers, detectors and upgrades and lead to a victory. I'm not saying it's good to sacrifice one's ability to fight near the front line, but I am saying it's possible to do well for the team without having alot of weapons and scoring alot of last hits.
I have seen games were support players with few weapons also had the fewest deaths on their team, but they had the worst Kill:Death ratio simply because they hadn't scored many last hit kills.
It's too bad kill credit is determined by the last hit. Often in key battles there are major assists, but the person with the most weapons tends to suck up all the money and kills like a black hole. It doesn't make the assist less important, especially stuns and disables, but they don't get credit in money or stats for it. Even DoTA tracks assists; and certainly we should too...then we'd clearly really see the importance of teamwork and good support in a numerical value.
I would like to see a way to get rid of the worst feeders, but the line drawn would have to be very low. Honestly I'd start by focusing on getting rid of leavers first...by upping the leaver standards to 85%.
- Rob
While I agree in principle with the idea, I would not apply it to existing ranked players as it could penalize pro support players; and thus is not a deterministic indicator of skill on it's own.
If you want an example of support view my Tournament Replay with Korea#2; it's a clear demonstration of how a player can provide good support, supply important consumables like tp breakers, detectors and upgrades and lead to a victory. I'm not saying it's good to sacrifice one's ability to fight near the front line, but I am saying it's possible to do well for the team without having alot of weapons and scoring alot of last hits.
I have seen games were support players with few weapons also had the fewest deaths on their team, but they had the worst Kill:Death ratio simply because they hadn't scored many last hit kills.
It's too bad kill credit is determined by the last hit. Often in key battles there are major assists, but the person with the most weapons tends to suck up all the money and kills like a black hole. It doesn't make the assist less important, especially stuns and disables, but they don't get credit in money or stats for it. Even DoTA tracks assists; and certainly we should too...then we'd clearly really see the importance of teamwork and good support in a numerical value.
I would like to see a way to get rid of the worst feeders, but the line drawn would have to be very low. Honestly I'd start by focusing on getting rid of leavers first...by upping the leaver standards to 85%.
- Rob
Former Chieftain of Clan toaf on US EAST *Retired*
Just playing for the fun of it now.
Just playing for the fun of it now.