2010-08-30, 05:49:52
Thanks GEN,
I know your play style is usually more of a support player, and I often play support as well. If I have a bad start, I always almost go Hunter and don't even focus on getting guns. I completely agree that any solution implemented should not alienate these folks.
However, for this solution to work:
1.) the threshold HAS to be >= 70%, ie 7 Kills : 10 Deaths as last 10 or 20 game average. If you don't you will still be letting in players that don't talk, suicide, feed, and really have no clue what they are doing. These players need to play Qualify until they are ready for the League.
2.) this fix HAS to be applied to players already in the League. That's entire problem we're trying to fix right, remove the really bad noobs that are ruining games right now.
Now trust me, I understand your concern about alienating support players, I think what you will find is that there really aren't many support players that have < 7.5:10 K:D. The strategy behind my approach is to get vetting from the community. So by all means, if you find a solid support player who's overall K:D is lower than 7.5/10, let me know (just search for that player's stats, bring up their page and divide total average kills by total average deaths).
From my analysis, there seems to be a very clear divide between players who know what they are doing, and players who don't, in terms of average K:D. In my post above, players like NetZero and Fiberoptik were really bad and severly imbalanced the teams. They have K:Ds in the high 50s and low 60s. We need to make sure we set the bar high, so the noobs understand they have something to shoot for.
So in my proposal, players would need the last 10 games average K:D to be > 7.5:10. This variable should always be tracked, no matter if in Qualify or League. So if this ratio ever dips, that player should be locked out of League until they fix it. On the very VERY rare cases where you find that a competent player is locked out, I think it would be far simplier to just have a thread for players to petition this restriction on a case by case basis. I think this is the best system to efficiently keep noobs out. Trust me, I've run the numbers, and I don't think there are many players with K:D ratios below this that are actually not noobs.
Please keep in mind, the REAL PROBLEM is that more than 50% of games are ruined because 1 or 2 noobs feed, don't communicate, never properly defend or attack. Personally, I'm getting so frustrated by it, that it makes me question whether I want to continue playing. I hardly consider any of the games I play to be good, now that votekick is removed and noobs are in almost all games.
(votekick is NOT alternative solution to this, they should both be implemented)
I know your play style is usually more of a support player, and I often play support as well. If I have a bad start, I always almost go Hunter and don't even focus on getting guns. I completely agree that any solution implemented should not alienate these folks.
However, for this solution to work:
1.) the threshold HAS to be >= 70%, ie 7 Kills : 10 Deaths as last 10 or 20 game average. If you don't you will still be letting in players that don't talk, suicide, feed, and really have no clue what they are doing. These players need to play Qualify until they are ready for the League.
2.) this fix HAS to be applied to players already in the League. That's entire problem we're trying to fix right, remove the really bad noobs that are ruining games right now.
Now trust me, I understand your concern about alienating support players, I think what you will find is that there really aren't many support players that have < 7.5:10 K:D. The strategy behind my approach is to get vetting from the community. So by all means, if you find a solid support player who's overall K:D is lower than 7.5/10, let me know (just search for that player's stats, bring up their page and divide total average kills by total average deaths).
From my analysis, there seems to be a very clear divide between players who know what they are doing, and players who don't, in terms of average K:D. In my post above, players like NetZero and Fiberoptik were really bad and severly imbalanced the teams. They have K:Ds in the high 50s and low 60s. We need to make sure we set the bar high, so the noobs understand they have something to shoot for.
So in my proposal, players would need the last 10 games average K:D to be > 7.5:10. This variable should always be tracked, no matter if in Qualify or League. So if this ratio ever dips, that player should be locked out of League until they fix it. On the very VERY rare cases where you find that a competent player is locked out, I think it would be far simplier to just have a thread for players to petition this restriction on a case by case basis. I think this is the best system to efficiently keep noobs out. Trust me, I've run the numbers, and I don't think there are many players with K:D ratios below this that are actually not noobs.
Please keep in mind, the REAL PROBLEM is that more than 50% of games are ruined because 1 or 2 noobs feed, don't communicate, never properly defend or attack. Personally, I'm getting so frustrated by it, that it makes me question whether I want to continue playing. I hardly consider any of the games I play to be good, now that votekick is removed and noobs are in almost all games.
(votekick is NOT alternative solution to this, they should both be implemented)