2010-09-12, 12:54:39
1. Against anti-grav you need to play very defensivly and use a tech-mech to keep the tower alive as long as possible (you probably will need help from mid occasionally to keep the tower alive which is pivotal). It's a bad idea to follow a long range low hp gameplan against this strategy (once the jump reaches lvl 2 you won't keep enough distance), you should rather save for an early tank (you might get the weakest hull before, depends on your starting tank). Also it is a good idea to get troop command as soon as he gets it (but after your tank - if the antigrav plays troop command before hull you need to start camping at the cp) and to play rather hitpointheavy.
Antigrav played like he did with good control is really strong from ~lvl 5 to the late midgame, you will need help from a mid player sometimes to punish too offensive playstyle by the antigrav and it is really difficult to go offensive against the antigrav alone. The key in late midgame is to abuse the rather low hp (hulls are expensive and he'll try to get as few hulls as possible) of the antigrav by using teleporter from mid well. Dream Team could at one point easily kill him with heavy and hunter, both hunters or a couple of other 2 tank combinations (right wenn LIoooooIL bought the plasma weapon with just 3-4k hp), but they failed to create enough quick 2v1 situations against him. I feel like Dream Team really missed one Air Ship or Helicopter playing teleporterheavy in mid to provide a constant threat to the side lanes of Sake. When you play against top side lane players you will need the backup from mid to keep them in a less comfortable position.
Nevertheless also note that LIoooooIL's control is really good and just adapting to his strategy is not enough, you need to play really cautiously (and he is equally dangerous with different strategies).
2. As I already stated in the replay I don't understand why Gen_Schwarzkopf got speed before any weapons with hunter, it just seems unreasonable to me. One could easily argue that the other players will get the creepkills instead and the less weapons of him are no problem, but that is false. The point is this: If you play 2v2+ situations and you are very unbalanced in weapons (i.e. one player got most weapons the other nearly non) the opponents will focus their single target spells on the player with the more weapons to kill him as fast as possible. When they succeed doing so the damage output becomes so low, that the other, low-equipment-tank is no threat any more and will most likely get killed or has to retreat without getting any bounty. It's basicly like a normal focus fire micro situation in any rts. So when playing a strategy which creates item imbalances in one team, you need to gain something to (over)compensate the later disadvantage of getting focus fired. But I don't see any sufficient advantage in getting the early speed.
PS: Not gonna write my thoughts on every situation/player of the game, would be just way too much so I only comment on the points allready brought up by others.
Antigrav played like he did with good control is really strong from ~lvl 5 to the late midgame, you will need help from a mid player sometimes to punish too offensive playstyle by the antigrav and it is really difficult to go offensive against the antigrav alone. The key in late midgame is to abuse the rather low hp (hulls are expensive and he'll try to get as few hulls as possible) of the antigrav by using teleporter from mid well. Dream Team could at one point easily kill him with heavy and hunter, both hunters or a couple of other 2 tank combinations (right wenn LIoooooIL bought the plasma weapon with just 3-4k hp), but they failed to create enough quick 2v1 situations against him. I feel like Dream Team really missed one Air Ship or Helicopter playing teleporterheavy in mid to provide a constant threat to the side lanes of Sake. When you play against top side lane players you will need the backup from mid to keep them in a less comfortable position.
Nevertheless also note that LIoooooIL's control is really good and just adapting to his strategy is not enough, you need to play really cautiously (and he is equally dangerous with different strategies).
2. As I already stated in the replay I don't understand why Gen_Schwarzkopf got speed before any weapons with hunter, it just seems unreasonable to me. One could easily argue that the other players will get the creepkills instead and the less weapons of him are no problem, but that is false. The point is this: If you play 2v2+ situations and you are very unbalanced in weapons (i.e. one player got most weapons the other nearly non) the opponents will focus their single target spells on the player with the more weapons to kill him as fast as possible. When they succeed doing so the damage output becomes so low, that the other, low-equipment-tank is no threat any more and will most likely get killed or has to retreat without getting any bounty. It's basicly like a normal focus fire micro situation in any rts. So when playing a strategy which creates item imbalances in one team, you need to gain something to (over)compensate the later disadvantage of getting focus fired. But I don't see any sufficient advantage in getting the early speed.
PS: Not gonna write my thoughts on every situation/player of the game, would be just way too much so I only comment on the points allready brought up by others.