2010-10-16, 00:02:37
Finally i got time to play a bit 872 games. Maybe i am too old to get used to new changes, but generally i don't like 872. Maybe i will slowly get used to it, but at this moment, i feel myself like a total noob.
I agree most of the points althend mentioned above.
- Control Points are now captured faster, when more tanks are near it
This means the teamwork can decide a game really fast => pub games become less fun than before
For example, in league games, if one of your teammates has less aware of cp protection, a team could lost cps really fast, and I think there is no way i can save it, when 3-4 enemies are coming.
Also it rises the importance of a tp. Now it becomes a must to have (in early game). Without having a tp (or tp in cd), basically i dare not to walk far away from a cp.
- Control Points heal only half as fast, when you take damage
I feel it heals much less than half fast. If i choose a short range weapon, and a mid-long range airship build a barri first and fly outside my range. I feel like nothing i can do, but sit next to the cp till die, and cp lost.
Generally i feel the cp heals a lot slow than before, even without enemy around (with enemy it is even slower).
A bad effect is player need to stay at cp for longer time, after lost hp from creeping. This also slow down the game on the other hand.
I also feel like i lose hp faster than before when got hit by creeps or other tanks. But i didn't find this in the change log.
- The normal factories in each base won't heal anymore and they got a new model
Remove the healing maybe reasonable, but i don't like the new factory model in base.
Also, after lose all cps, the mortars can easily take out all factories. Without cps and factories, there is no way to turnover the game. so the game is more determined, but less fun.
This on the other hand also destroy the fast saving for big tank tactic. E.g. when you save directly to big tank, like inf, while the other team quickly got all frostbot and do team jump to get cps. After the cp lost (and the factories soon), there is no need to get inf at that time.
Besides, in map 872 i got lags from time to time. Feels like a bug of the map.
However, i do like the new commands and the -afkai removed from league. I also think the new terrain changes are ok. (Air tank is not useless than before, it is even more important for cp capture.)
Overall, I don't really understand why we are doing such big changes at this time. 871 was already stable and balanced (although a bit long to play) But 872 is like a new mode completely, and feels like will need long time to adjust it. Shouldn't the mappers spend the limited time focus more on the bt sc2 version?
I agree most of the points althend mentioned above.
- Control Points are now captured faster, when more tanks are near it
This means the teamwork can decide a game really fast => pub games become less fun than before
For example, in league games, if one of your teammates has less aware of cp protection, a team could lost cps really fast, and I think there is no way i can save it, when 3-4 enemies are coming.
Also it rises the importance of a tp. Now it becomes a must to have (in early game). Without having a tp (or tp in cd), basically i dare not to walk far away from a cp.
- Control Points heal only half as fast, when you take damage
I feel it heals much less than half fast. If i choose a short range weapon, and a mid-long range airship build a barri first and fly outside my range. I feel like nothing i can do, but sit next to the cp till die, and cp lost.
Generally i feel the cp heals a lot slow than before, even without enemy around (with enemy it is even slower).
A bad effect is player need to stay at cp for longer time, after lost hp from creeping. This also slow down the game on the other hand.
I also feel like i lose hp faster than before when got hit by creeps or other tanks. But i didn't find this in the change log.
- The normal factories in each base won't heal anymore and they got a new model
Remove the healing maybe reasonable, but i don't like the new factory model in base.
Also, after lose all cps, the mortars can easily take out all factories. Without cps and factories, there is no way to turnover the game. so the game is more determined, but less fun.
This on the other hand also destroy the fast saving for big tank tactic. E.g. when you save directly to big tank, like inf, while the other team quickly got all frostbot and do team jump to get cps. After the cp lost (and the factories soon), there is no need to get inf at that time.
Besides, in map 872 i got lags from time to time. Feels like a bug of the map.
However, i do like the new commands and the -afkai removed from league. I also think the new terrain changes are ok. (Air tank is not useless than before, it is even more important for cp capture.)
Overall, I don't really understand why we are doing such big changes at this time. 871 was already stable and balanced (although a bit long to play) But 872 is like a new mode completely, and feels like will need long time to adjust it. Shouldn't the mappers spend the limited time focus more on the bt sc2 version?