2013-07-31, 22:49:47
(This post was last modified: 2013-07-31, 22:50:20 by griffin1987.)
1. Just because you end a game you don't start the next immediately. By ending a game you just swap playing with waiting for the next to start, and at least for me waiting is not nearly as fun as playing, and even playing the first 25 minutes over and over again is, imho, not as fun as playing a game till the end, however long that may take.
2. If you take not taking a specific action and having a different oppinion than others (4 out of 10 people by the way - don't you think the other team would've prefered playing till the end as well?) as provocative, then about everything you do or do not in live is provocative.
3. I was never taking anything as excuse, I just wanted to end this discussion in a way so it is clear that I wasn't kicking trahtorist because of some personal issue with him. And as I'm no magician, I don't know if he ever reads the forum or not, or maybe even posts under a different username.
4. I took the action not out of an emotional state, but because of logic which told me it would be totally okay, because a ban request for something I found to be very similar (linked request by gozo) was rejected, and also people always telling me that they think staying in a game after typing -giveup is wasting their time. If you follow that train of thought, it was perfectly logical to me to issue a kick vote. Of course there was also an emotional component involved which led me to even care about that, but then again no human ever decides anything without emotion being involved, and thus I'd call it human to follow emotions to certain degree. Also, I did neither call anyone names ("flame"), nor did I try to manipulate the game (e.g. bomb my own base), but of course you're free to call me whatever you like
5. I think you either misunderstood me there or just have the opposite oppinion. I can't say for sure, so I'll try to reword it in a hopefully easier to understand way: I think for judgement to be fair, the judging party should not be involved in what happened, otherwise there would be what is commonly called a conflict of interest. In the case of this game, eSVau was part of the game, thus - in my oppinion - he should not be allowed to directly judge it.
And again regarding background information: I DO have 2 hostbots which I had running for nearly 2 years, and just stopped because I didn't want to draw too many people from the league bots (no reason to run additional bots if it only means that games take longer to start). And I also had a running forum for clan BTNK as well as a stats database (though without elo, as it was before the scoring system was introduced to bt). Also, you should think about the word "FREE" again, as there are things which are worth more than a 5-30 euro per month hosting service (otherwise people wouldn't be on the wall about things like PRISM, which doesn't cost most of them a single cent ...). Also I think you misunderstood what I said - it wasn't meant as a threat, but telling eSVau that if he doesn't want to continue what he is doing, he shouldn't, as I think no one should do anything they don't want if one can help it. We aren't living in slavery, after all.
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Anyway, there are of course different oppinions, but as it seems this all is leading kinda nowhere, I won't be posting anything anymore in here, but feel free to continue without me.
Good luck & have fun playing games
2. If you take not taking a specific action and having a different oppinion than others (4 out of 10 people by the way - don't you think the other team would've prefered playing till the end as well?) as provocative, then about everything you do or do not in live is provocative.
3. I was never taking anything as excuse, I just wanted to end this discussion in a way so it is clear that I wasn't kicking trahtorist because of some personal issue with him. And as I'm no magician, I don't know if he ever reads the forum or not, or maybe even posts under a different username.
4. I took the action not out of an emotional state, but because of logic which told me it would be totally okay, because a ban request for something I found to be very similar (linked request by gozo) was rejected, and also people always telling me that they think staying in a game after typing -giveup is wasting their time. If you follow that train of thought, it was perfectly logical to me to issue a kick vote. Of course there was also an emotional component involved which led me to even care about that, but then again no human ever decides anything without emotion being involved, and thus I'd call it human to follow emotions to certain degree. Also, I did neither call anyone names ("flame"), nor did I try to manipulate the game (e.g. bomb my own base), but of course you're free to call me whatever you like
5. I think you either misunderstood me there or just have the opposite oppinion. I can't say for sure, so I'll try to reword it in a hopefully easier to understand way: I think for judgement to be fair, the judging party should not be involved in what happened, otherwise there would be what is commonly called a conflict of interest. In the case of this game, eSVau was part of the game, thus - in my oppinion - he should not be allowed to directly judge it.
And again regarding background information: I DO have 2 hostbots which I had running for nearly 2 years, and just stopped because I didn't want to draw too many people from the league bots (no reason to run additional bots if it only means that games take longer to start). And I also had a running forum for clan BTNK as well as a stats database (though without elo, as it was before the scoring system was introduced to bt). Also, you should think about the word "FREE" again, as there are things which are worth more than a 5-30 euro per month hosting service (otherwise people wouldn't be on the wall about things like PRISM, which doesn't cost most of them a single cent ...). Also I think you misunderstood what I said - it wasn't meant as a threat, but telling eSVau that if he doesn't want to continue what he is doing, he shouldn't, as I think no one should do anything they don't want if one can help it. We aren't living in slavery, after all.
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Anyway, there are of course different oppinions, but as it seems this all is leading kinda nowhere, I won't be posting anything anymore in here, but feel free to continue without me.
Good luck & have fun playing games
Getting used to the Sand everywhere. At least it brings us map updates.