titanium pack

[qweqqweq]

here's my new idea, which is an old idea of mine though. with the new shop providing even more powerfull end game weapons and considering that there's still plenty of room in the recepie shop please allow me to re-suggest something with a few new modifications. me and some clan mates have been tossing these ideas back and forth and here's what we've come up with. let me know guys what you think of it please, crap idea, or pure genius?

titanium pack for something like 14,125 gold:

requieres:

iron hull upgraded, steel hull upgraded, and power pack

what it does: it has the combined hp bonus of an upgraded iron, steel, and gold hull, plus whenever your tank gets to something like 25% hp then it autoheals you for the same hit points that an ult pack does but for no mana (since titan can't have mana for that anyways when using tp, stun, aoe, ult, and building damage spell at the same time).

some other good names for it could be super-awesome pack, awesome super pack, super cool pack, or supercalifragilistic pack, or something else.

just to remind you exodus i still think at the very least the antigrav which has 3 abilities that help him fight in short range would be cooler and more effective for me at least with a fast firing 700 range tank cannon with a bit more dps that follows the normal linear weapons damage formula. if you think that that would make it a bit over powered than perhaps taking off 100 hp in exchange or something like that? i don't know, what do you think?

[Dr.McNinja]

Sounds like a good idea, sounds like 'invincible hull' from MG mod version that gives +8000hp but thats without the upgrade feature.

As for antigrav tank cannon: its good in theory and it shouldnt take too much of exo's time to tweak, and have testers do testing. Having the same tank cannon for all tanks is boring. It should scale with the tank as well..
Meaning weaker tanks' tank cannons arent as powerful as... frostbot's tank cannon.

[Dr.Popitz]

I don’t like the auto heal. I prefer items that require at least a bit of skill. (Pushing the right button at the right time, you know? That what I’m not capable of… :wink: ) That said I would rather like a stronger hull. A titanium hull? Giving you like 10k extra hp for 12500 gold upgrade to 15k hp for 6250 gold?

Because if you make to the late game with titans, frost lasers, etc. a gold hull isn’t that powerful anymore.

I like the idea of scaling tank cannons. It would make the skill more useful in mid and late game. But I wouldn’t make it too specialized for each tank. The scaling should only affect the damage per shot, except for exotics like the creep sniper of the scout or the hero sniper of the hunter.

[qweqqweq]

here's some more pack ideas. boring stuff, try not to fall asleep if you read this. sorry.

if there's still room in the recepie shop how about making the strength pack upgradable to a power pack with an extra steel hull upgraded? A way to upgrade the trade hunter pack to an ult pack would be nice too. If both of these things were possible it would make both the lesser items a more viable choice for me. i hate to spend so much gold on a a trade hunter pack then have to sell it later for an ult pack later. Same thing with the strength pack. those items are not cheap. why is speed pack upgradable but not trade hunter pack which it seems would only need a repair robots to do it.

or instead for the hunter pack if you really want the trader hunter pack to be effective for hunting the trader then how about this:

What about letting hunter pack not increase your speed but instead make you invisible for 10 seconds as well when you teleport and then putting it on a different cooldown then teleport, speed pack, and ult pack so that you could have two teleports plus the invisibility. THEN i could probably kick the shit out of some cocky traders! you could probably do it with triggers but it don't know how hard it would be. this would probably change the balance in favor demon tank and other tanks though so i'm not so sure if that's a really good idea. For me it's frustrating trying to hunt an experienced trader and if he has good teamates it's tough to stay alive even if I do get him.

these are probably stupid ideas although i think they'd be cool.

another argument for the titanium hull which is right in the middle so far opinion poll-wise:

at the end game usually it's titan with only weapons and ult pack. weapons don't take any micro so it's kind of zzzzzzzzzzz. now that there are different end game weapons that's really nice and I like that there are different strategy options but i'd like to see a more powerful power pack for later and maybe a super orbital. currently orbital, troops, and power pack are still usefull in the end game but let's be real, a frost lazer or swarm is i think still way more powerful which is sort of boring. not that many games if any are ever going to go that long under the current system of force upgrades though. lol

[GooglyBoogly]

it would be enough just to have the hunter pack use a different cooldown (say 44 secs) - a 2nd teleporter item that stacks with the normal one would create new builds. The mana requirements and the additional slots could make for some interesting decisions.

Re: Titanium pack, it would need to have a decent level requirement - say 13, and the no-mana requirement would probably be too strong, since the way you describe it, it would probably work while stunned, and thus effectively give an extra 5k hp. If the autocast had a delay of a second or three, it could be pretty interesting.

[qweqqweq]

ya, you're right, i changed my mind. i now think that a titanium pack should cost mana and require you to click it to activate it but for the full heal of the three upped hulls and not just the power pack heal.

[horselance]

How about it includes Repair Kit (was that the name?) and + 2500 heal. So new heal is 7500. (5k heal is not enough)

[qweqqweq]

concerning tank mana:

i was just testing the new stuff in single player and i noticed the titan's got 284 mana now (with 10 ups) so using power pack and ult pack isn't an issue other than it takes a really long time to charge up the mana. which makes me wonder if i was wrong about titan not having enough mana in the first place but who cares anyways? with the tinker bug i was able to get i think 392 mana or something like that but as soon as i chose another tank it went back to 284. at some levels the thunder tank used to not have enough mana to cast just 2 spells, it's stun and its ultimate, so i'm wondering if that was intended or not. i think the air ship had the same problem with its ult and healing drones.


**off topic:

i still get major game delay whenever i'm clicking out tinker abilities and that menu closes prematurely for me still. does that happen to anyone else? Would pre-loading and deleting a level 25 tinker into the game and giving him those skills during map load help? i'm always scared to try and level him up really fast in a public game becasue i'm afraid it might cause some one to lag out. is that possible?

in single player are you ever going to add a -cd and -tp cheat commands. a -creepattack xx and -creeparmor xx commmand would be nice too. it's sort of tedious clicking custom mode at the start and then restarting the game every time i want the creep level to go down. waiting for cds i've said before is a pain, and moving around the map also takes a while.

[Althend]

Concerning the pack, I agree, that a real ultima hull would help. The amount of hull in the cimetery makes me cry
Think ecologist, think pack !