I don't like the kick system as it is because it is sometimes unfair. I don't leave the game, I don't feed, I'm not afk and still kicked because of balance. I think its not fair to ruin the stay rate just because the other team kicks their feeders and than want the other team to kick for balance. I agree that kicking is sometimes the last option and can't be removed at all, but it should not ruin the stay rate, especially the rate of the good guys, not feeding, not flaming and so on.
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The Idea behind the kicksystem is good, but it would only work, if people would agree with each other, when it should be used. It has been clearly become a bitter pill, because it is mainly misused and causes more harm than good. Why keep it, when we could adress the main issues it was implemented for in other ways.
I played other games where kicking is not allowed and the missing possibility to kick people seems to reduce Flaming.
All i see is that kicking is 90% abused. The other 9% is balance which is also unfair to those kicked and only the remaining 1% are justified and usefull.
A system that doesn't work should been shut down. Kicking doesn't work.
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Andibert
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dunno, didn't check the replay. but it won't fasten the progress of the discussion nor the preperations for the next version. there are already enough replays stating the obvious fact that there are too many players abusing the system.
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yet another game ass holes abused the kick command
the game just started, is not even the first 5 min mark, I died, I made a kill, then a short while later I died again, and this mofo says I'm feeding 1:2, and they start the kick vote 4:2 and now I'm here to report the abuse, because if this goes on like this in the actual League games, then there is no much point playing when these greedy bastards just wants the gold, and a "pro" wannabe without any death... As If... :roll:
we really need a better way to prevent abuse to this -kick command
the way how it was on 8.69 was better, starting as a negative vote
maybe put a rule to not allow kick on the first 10 min
Battlemaniac Wrote:the way how it was on 8.69 was better, starting as a negative vote
They current system made it more difficult than before - but it will be abused even morehock:
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I have i idea: a big & fat writing on the loading screen: "Kicking is not for kicking feeders!" or something like that Some poeple do really think, that kicking is for kicking feeders or others for getting their gold...
leave it as it is. because at least 2 people leave the game gets very unbalanced. also feeders/afk need to be kicked or they ruin the game. i think the people who complain about kick command are those who get kicked for bad stats usually
Erwin_Rommel Wrote:leave it as it is. because at least 2 people leave the game gets very unbalanced. also feeders/afk need to be kicked or they ruin the game. i think the people who complain about kick command are those who get kicked for bad stats usually
... and this is not right that way. that's a reason why this thread was open..
did u read all posts and reasons why it is useful/or not to remove it? i don't think so.
btw... only near 30 votes in a thousands community... really sad :|
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the devteam mostly came to an agreement... only a matter of time ( mostly till the next version ) and input of our admins now... ^^
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What is the agreement of the dev team? Once again. I have been kicked. Nice game so far. Good gaming. 5:2 statistic and then kicked for nothing. Before me another player of our team was kicked with a 6:0 statistic. Absolutely unfair. Remove it. It's no fun this way when you are kicked because you are to good or whatever.
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Today I made a decision, I QUIT bt league until the "-kick" is disabled, or redesigned in a decent way.
I finally decided doing so because the attached game. The game is like only 30min, but there are 15+ kicks. 5 players (include me) are kicked, plus 1 leaver. I was like 30-6 when get kicked, top of the both teams.
I checked the game in the beta server. After i got kicked, 2 of the last 4 players are kicked too. 8 players got penalty. (i receive -20p which totally should've NOT). Only the noob flamer stay till the end and get positive points...
Feel free to check GameID: 1066
No one, when enter a liga game, wants to have such a game. But it is happening.
For those who wants to check the replay, you can go faster till 20min, and enjoy the last 10min kicking game. And use 1/2x after 29min to feel that moment i got kicked.
olivercamel Wrote:Today I made a decision, I QUIT bt league until the "-kick" is disabled, or redesigned in a decent way.
I finally decided doing so because the attached game. The game is like only 30min, but there are 15+ kicks. 5 players (include me) are kicked, plus 1 leaver. I was like 30-6 when get kicked, top of the both teams.
I checked the game in the beta server. After i got kicked, 2 of the last 4 players are kicked too. 8 players got penalty. (i receive -20p which totally should've NOT). Only the noob flamer stay till the end and get positive points...
Feel free to check GameID: 1066
No one, when enter a liga game, wants to have such a game. But it is happening.
For those who wants to check the replay, you can go faster till 20min, and enjoy the last 10min kicking game. And use 1/2x after 29min to feel that moment i got kicked.
Why quit something that is not even final release? ^_^
A solution will be found!
Just ban the dude and wait final version
I am so good that I don't even need to type -rc because I never die !
Please be patient. They will release a new version when they believe it's time for a new version. It's not like just removing this feature and push out a new version. Usually you are within your development cycle and you have lots of unfinished work that need to be finished before you can release a new version. So give them time to finish it up, implement the new kick or what ever system and then talk about it. I think all devs have understood how we feel about the kick problem so there is no need to to tell them over and over again.
Regards, haz0r
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Velocity2k Wrote:RaptorXI hat geschrieben:Is it that hard to release a fucking beta version without the kick feature for test issues?
Actually it's harder to keep calm when reading such f****** comments.
Sorry for the language, but some practical results would help to bring this discussion to an end. Since I am playing this game (Version 4.x) there has been a kick feature. I don't know how it would be if it was totally removed, but at least for the league it is blowing games.
hock:
Some poeple do really think, that kicking is for kicking feeders or others for getting their gold...
