ELO calculating in team balance

[Prog]

You like it that some smurf can be super high elo ranked #2 with just 20 games played? I don't. It just seems to overvalue winstreaks.



ps: it's fire-phoenix's smurf, right?^^

[GEN_Schwarzkopf]

You like it that some smurf can be super high elo ranked #2 with just 20 games played? I don't. It just seems to overvalue winstreaks.



ps: it's fire-phoenix's smurf, right?^^

I agree 100% Prog.

[LIoOoOoIL]

ps: it's fire-phoenix's smurf, right?^^

that was a rhetorical question : P

my realacc is/would be on #135 (cool, finally easy balancd games - just cause i lost 3 of my last 4 games?) hmm..

anyway, it seems this modified elo balancing also wouldnt work really well.

ps: also singed what prog mentioned (about the high ranking with just few played games).
there should be more advantages for ppl with many played games (also could go into a step vs smurf/fake acc´s), not that u played 1million games and stay alone on #1 (with just a average win/loss statistic) but it should count more, since they have more expirience then roockies etc. .

[wrongid]

I like the idea. No matter how many games you play for some rank. what matters is your real skill and balance of games. Who is good willl be in top rank no matter the system.
This system detects good players much faster and i like it. Numbr-One is wupti and it was rly ridiculous to play game vs team with him whn he had 1550 for example. In this system he'd be detected as good player faster => less imba games wich is in my point of view the top value. fun>ranking.

[Prog]

"Wupti." is rank 75 with ~1k elo and 112-52 stats, while the smurf is rank 2 with ~1.6k elo with 18-2. That does not look like detecting good players reliably. It would also create new "imba games" when he plays with the "Wupti." account.

[BENNIE.FM]

in my view there are a few good points for example here is one a player with 1750 elo gets a player 1350 elo which in term should balance the game problem is the 1350 elo player can be good as a 1500 elo player on the other team which terminates or reduces balance.

I believe prog has some very valid points and another is the elo system is working to certain extent because its always the same people ranked at top or near it.There are always going to be odd games i belive there is very little we can do to improve but i think kd ratio is a good indicator on how a player plays sometimes i get 1400 elo player i see he still has positive kd ratio and plays like 1500 elo player which is great for me.

A few things i noticed elo can be under or overstated for a player
Elo does not take into account a high elo player having a bad game (keep in mind to have a high elo you should usually play consistently good to reach 1650+) obviously can ruin balance of game
Elo cant take into account smurfing or new accounts
Elo does reflect how sometimes you get 1450 elo players ones played 5 games and is terrible from 5 losses there other has 1000 and is equal to 1550 elo player at times (keep in mind this theory can be vice versa and so on)

[Crag_Hack]

another option is to send low elo players maybe lower then 1450 (or something else like 1475) players to play 10 additional qualify games to play ranked again to learn a little bit more then let them play 5 ranked games and if there elo already under 1450 they have to play another 10 or more qualify games (maybe with a stacking system of number of qualify games)

it will prevent for the noobishst noobs in the btanks universe and we will see more good games and maybe high elo player havent to take that much alternative accounts

[Alexandro]

Just make a guide, by clicking f9 you will have (for example) a good starting build for each tank and maybe some later builds. No more things needed. If the noobs will have a guide they will play with it and they will be more useful and will learn more.

[Althend]

Actually the main problem of league is that u can choose ur game ^__^

The recipe to be rank 1 is simple: avoid hard games, use smurf to screw other top player games

[RaptorXI]

I don't believe in team balancing at all (like more shuffling as on the qualify bot).