Repair-Robots n Exploders

[hiver]

Now it is a fashion to buy repair-robots and it mess the game more than a litte, the price is not well balanced. And exploders r totally senseless n screws the game especially in qualify.

[Max]

Then come in ranked !

[BENNIE.FM]

Well repair bots seems to make lanes quite boring atm,and i noticed its easy to overpower your enemy especially with dropping hull and gaining full hp easily seems alot of camping outside there cp which has changed from previous versions.Well to be honest i only seen one game with exploder being good enough.....to change the game mostly failed or isn't feasible against skillful players though the skill involved is different and interesting.

[Max]

The problem is that the only way to handle a laner with repair bot is by getting reapir bots too. Of course if laners are even, or almost even.

[stibi-]

what if we change repair robots to heal % hp / sec?

same thing you did with scout heal and light tank heal

[Perfektionist]

what if we change repair robots to heal % hp / sec?

same thing you did with scout heal and light tank heal

noo think about 2 % of 20 k hp... = 400 hp/s????? no no no no

just make it more expensive, 2k gold and 75 hp each sec. Then dissable the healfunction if hit for 5 seconds... tada nerved!

[Max]

dissable the healfunction if hit for 5 seconds...

O M G

[stibi-]

what if we change repair robots to heal % hp / sec?

same thing you did with scout heal and light tank heal

noo think about 2 % of 20 k hp... = 400 hp/s????? no no no no

just make it more expensive, 2k gold and 75 hp each sec. Then dissable the healfunction if hit for 5 seconds... tada nerved!

noooooo zomfg think about a control point
http://btanks.net/wiki/Healing

disable them!

[Perfektionist]

noooooo zomfg think about a control point
http://btanks.net/wiki/Healing

disable them!

................... NO WORDS...

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O M G

in DotA there is an item that is called "heart of tarrasque" (5500 gold = very expensive in DotA) gives you a passive 2 % hp regeneration but if you got dmg by a hero the healing effect stopps for 5 seconds. = this will solve the problem that people using rep. robots because they cant positioning them right. (if you positioning is good you dont get hit and you dont need rep. robots)

But in BT percent healing is stupid because in the lategame the tanks got to mutch hp and repair robots is to cheap for that.

BTW: if you like/use repair robots you are a noob <3

[Max]

Well 5 sec stop in healing is stupid because you have better to go back in cp, it makes this item useless. The interesting part of healer is to heal out of cp. Most of the time out of cp you are in fight, then you won't repair ==> item useless.
The only way to get things back is to make the item like it was before : 2k gold. Then in a draw in lane you can still creep 30 sec more when your ennemy get a healer and go steel hull for example. At the moment when I play lane I keep some gold in case of my ennemy gets repair robots to get one too : best way to handle that. There is no equivalent item for this price. It's powerfull and cheap, so unbalanced.

[AeroniumX]

How about making it cost 2k, then only 1k for upgrade?

[Max]

Well it must be proportional. If 2k heal 60 hp/sec then with upgrade it would heal 90 hp/sec.

[Helge_F.]

the suggestion with 2-5%of max hp/sec heal sounds good, just make a cap at 75hp/sec and with upgrade 150hp/sec and its fine

[Max]

Then make it cost 2k back...

[Perfektionist]

just change is back where it was before the update

[hiver]

I mean especially liners take it n omg no action for quite some time they just camp near tower go bck n in 3 sec come back again:S. It seems Ironhull totally has been cast out. For me it spoils the game to see that every 2(3)of 5 gets Repairb. at 5:00 or just after.

[Jason]

cry cry cry

the bots make for fun gameplay.

they are fine how they are.

[Max]

Fun game play? How fun it is when you paly with someone who can attack your tower without loosing any hp, when you face a guy you can't push back. How fun this is? Recently i played vs guys who got repair bots. I got repair bots too to handle them. Result? I destroy their tower in 3 min (+ mech when someone bring one) and get cp in 5-6 min. If I get repair bots before them or if they don't get repair bots, it's the same but faster. Without repair bots fight keep going and it's more about players skills, not about overpowered item. I'm really bored to be forced to get repair bots because a noob get one. Then you can rush in base and don't move from here until you destroy towers and factories because no one can kill you 1vs1 and if they are more than 1 vs you the others fuck the lanes. how fun this is !
Look at that : I bought repair bots after my opponent get one, see the result : http://league.btanks.net/game.php?gameid=36732 ; http://league.btanks.net/game.php?gameid=36744 ; http://league.btanks.net/game.php?gameid=36737
In those fights I got cp fast then destroyed all towers of town and 3 factories. Without getting back to cp at any time. And no one could kill me.
In the second example I played my lane by opponent cp with dami antigrav camp and wearebit heli lr camp. Each time they came I killed them + my lane opponent a few seconds after. And in the first example I came from mid because lb was feeding with 30 creeps and 1 kill handicap. I bought repair bots and made purple leave because he lost his creeps advantage and fed me like hell. And in the third example I was so fed that I destroyed mid after lane while mid was almost 4-20 for the other team and got back the kill advantage in my team.
Is that the fun you like? Then how about allowing "greedisgood" or "whosyourdaddy"?

[Perfektionist]

Fun game play? How fun it is when you paly with someone who can attack your tower without loosing any hp, when you face a guy you can't push back. ... ... ...

thats what i mean. The "skill" in the first 30 min is not getting hitten by anything. If you are hit by a weapon and you got 2/3 hp left you have to think about, that you go back (loses xp and gold) or stay in lane but maybe get killed from the enemy. Atm. there is no decision. Everyone got repair robots and they dont care about beeing hit.
Cool tanks like Medivac, Scout and Light Tank are not anymore the only tanks they can heal them self. + atm. heli is the ultimate tank (before lvl10). Very fast and with rep. robots nearly immortal.

[Max]

Exactly !