The Future of the BT League

[psycho_dmr]

sequel to "Zukunft der BT-Liga"

the question is if the current system has a chance to get used or not, if not, if another system has a chance...

the new system uses screenshots of the end of the game, so you have to type "-start" (or something else ^^) at the start of the game and at the end, you have to make a screenshot, zip it, upload it, type the names of the players into a form, ans submit the match.

and it looks like the new system has won the vote

[TKF]

Sending screenshots for every league game? Isn't the code you get at end of matches enough?

[psycho_dmr]

with the current system it is, but now u need this password to start the match :/
with this system you cant start a spontaneous match in bnet... first u need to go to the website and write down your pw...

if the code is fully integrated in the map, it is easy to hack it... happend with the first league system

but zipped screenshots have only a few kb size, with 7-zip u can zip them to 6kb, with the winxp-own zip program to 7kb ....


__edit: and, if u want a code, all registered playes need to be saved in the map, that sucks because then we have to update it once a week...

[TKF]

If I understand this correctly, you must login and get your password at btanks.de - then if you play a league game on b.net, and at the end of the game, you have to save a screenshot? So this is the current system.

And I've never heard of the -start command

[psycho_dmr]

hehe no,

you must login and get your password at btanks.de - then if you play a league game on b.net,

this is the current system

and at the end of the game, you have to save a screenshot?

this will be the new system, but without the passwort at start!

[TKF]

lol I totally misunderstood the vote, as there was 2 choices. I thought the old liga system was the one before, not the current liga system.

[psycho_dmr]

lol sry ^^

so one more for the new system?

[TKF]

I thought the vote was about choosing the old simple liga system OR choosing the one you suggested. Sucky google translate didn't make it clear, so I thought the current liga system was out of option. When you say old liga system, it obvious your talking about the old liga system, not the current system.

[Vomitus]

May be I am a bit out of subject but is there any possibility to run Liga on pvpgn server?

[psycho_dmr]

if you have a valid Battle.net account, yes

[Batto]

Well i think the current system isnt that bad ! My questions about the screenshot-system are:

- isnt that too hard for total pc noobs (zipping etc.) ?
- isnt it easy to corrupt by photoshopping your screenshot?

[psycho_dmr]

right click -> send to -> zip folder ... everybody should can do that xD

and yes, you can corrupt screens with photoshop, but it is hard to do it such good, that you cant see the edited things.

furthermore we'll request replays for every match where something is wrong...

[Batto]

Ok , then i have to save all replays

But yeah, seems pretty easy, so it would work like:

*game starts
I type:

Code:

-league
-start

Then i play
at the end, i make a screenshot as fast as i can.

If something is still wrong, pls tell me!

BTW: how does the league system on the "great" dota game work? Anyone knows?

[psycho_dmr]

1. game starts, you type "-ranked"
2. you play
3. game ends and the map will show a few information about the game. you'll make a screenshot of this information
4. you go to the website and upload the screen (first zip it), enter the users nicknames and submit the match

thats all

BTW: how does the league system on the "great" dota game work? Anyone knows?

there you have to go in a "waiting room" on the website, but battle tanks has not enough players for this system

[Batto]

Maybe one more problem, if i am wrong, then i am completely in favor of this system:

- if game has ended, but the host leaves quickly, you cant make a screenshot anymore!

My possible own solution: make screenshot of last possible screen of the replay? But maybe that doesnt show enough information?

[psycho_dmr]

if you cant make a screenshot, you still have the replay...

but you're right... hmm :/

[psycho_dmr]

Maybe one more problem, if i am wrong, then i am completely in favor of this system:

- if game has ended, but the host leaves quickly, you cant make a screenshot anymore!

My possible own solution: make screenshot of last possible screen of the replay? But maybe that doesnt show enough information?

but that problem have alle systems... so its not argument for/against the screen-shot idea...

[TKF]

Screenshots are quite foolproof and everyone can participate. This is the only good solution to make a good and stable liga system. The current system has a fatal weakness, it's a submit system with codes, where the codes tells the info. If you implements codes into a map, it is always vulnerable for being decoded and abused. And history will repeat again...

[psycho_dmr]

yep, we have only one problem atm... I and l
if anybody can play a ranked game w/o registration on website, it is hard to see if the nick was 0ll0 (null - lil L - lil L- null) or OIIO (big O, big i, big i, big O) :/

[TKF]

Well for a dota league game, there must me a referee ingame (observer) and your team has to be signed on a web site up before a league game can start. That what I've heard about it.