Axe and Flak

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I don't think axe/flak/aa gun/bombs should get that much of an additional bonus damage - actually those weapon are strong BECAUSE they are limited in terms of possible targets.

And an axe exceeds them all due the fact most tanks are ground and air can be caught by nets.

*They certainly are not strong because of the limits in targets, but rather because of the bonus damage. This limit comes with lots of disadvantages when defending cps (barricades bind you to the cp for a long time) and when purchasing the weapons early (because others can change to air). I do not think that anyone would get axe if they had no bonus damage. There would be no reason to.

*I think it is wrong to subsume axe/flak/aa gun/bombs all under the same category. I am sure that noone has problems with flak, aa gun or bombs at all. Flak and aa gun are pretty much irrelevant because there is so little air play currently (and I think you rarely saw them ever). Bombs are a less of an issue because a netted bomb player has no damage output at all.

*Nets need an itemslot which is definitely bad endgame.


Something that gets missed a lot (but you mentioned) is that the current endgame (and even the midgame since airship speed was nerfed and demon buffed) is very ground centric. There are more ground endgame tanks and there are deminishing returns in running more than 1 or 2 Sky Fortresses. Especially if you compare it to infs and titans who benefit from each other a lot. If the Sky Fortress is more prominent endgame ground only weapons will be a non-issue. Or, which is something that should be a long term goal, we need another air endgame tank to accomplish this.



Also I would like to emphasize a good atmosphere for balance discussions. It is certainly not helpful to use derogatory terms and ad-hominen remarks to strengthen any position. It is also not helpful to simply claim that "it sucks", without qualification. It also does not provide a good atmosphere ingame if you constantly provide passive-aggressive statements like some of you do.



Finally a side-remark: Votekick is not designed as an answer to feeders. Feeding is no offence as long as it is unintentional.