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A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - BENNIE.FM - 2010-02-20
how about a weapon that takes mana instead of hp
mana is always so important it will be cool for weapons to take mana like 1 mana sec or something or modes of a weapon i think this suggestion could open btanks up alot will be fun its a serious suggestion
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - Battlemaniac - 2010-02-20
ghost tank already have that ability
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - LivingFR - 2010-02-20
I guess this isnt balancable.
If it takes only very few mana per second no one will waste a slot for it, because enemies just by 1-2 bonus batteries.
If it takes too much mana, this simple item would just destroy all skills of the tanks, which are the heart of the fights and i don't think this would be fun.
I am against "mana per sec" weapons, in terms of reducing the enemies mana I personally would favourite an rechargeable item like nets, which make you need skill to use it in the right moment to give you an advantage.
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - Lezowski - 2010-02-20
Useless, mana doesn't kill tanks.
And creeps also.
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - Battlemaniac - 2010-02-21
Lezowski Wrote:Useless, mana doesn't kill tanks.true
Lezowski Wrote:And creeps also.not true
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - GooglyBoogly - 2010-02-21
I guess it could be a consumable, or a rechargeable item like orbital strike.
say EMP pulse, -50% of current mana with a small aoe (or single target, if cheap)
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - Saiyuki - 2010-02-22
percentage mana dran could not be made cheap, as the 'damage' which would be done by the item would increase the higher the enemy tank is or at least the higher max mana the enemy would have. but you may think of something like a draining ward, which drains mana in an aoe after some ticks. for example, drain 5 mana each 3 seconds in an aoe of 350 of the ward, not stackable.
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - sam_ach - 2010-02-22
Lezowski Wrote:Useless, mana doesn't kill tanks.
but a lack of mana can^^ (repair kit, no port etc)
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - BENNIE.FM - 2010-02-23
mana is usually the difference in doing a spell and or tele porting away or using a repair to kit to survive i think it would be interesting
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - GooglyBoogly - 2010-02-23
Quote:percentage mana dran could not be made cheap, as the 'damage' which would be done by the item would increase the higher the enemy tank is or at least the higher max mana the enemy would have
I don't understand. Normally spells scale with their level, so a high level tank has more mana, and the ability costs more, this makes the cost of the spell approximately a constant %, so if you want the mana drain to have a constant effect (i.e can cast one less spell) then you need to make it scale with capacity.
Otherwise, such an item would either be too strong early game, or completely useless late game.
Re: A weapon suggestion :) (COMMENT NOW :) - IlPalazzo - 2010-02-24
GooglyBoogly Wrote:Quote:percentage mana dran could not be made cheap, as the 'damage' which would be done by the item would increase the higher the enemy tank is or at least the higher max mana the enemy would have
I don't understand. Normally spells scale with their level, so a high level tank has more mana, and the ability costs more, this makes the cost of the spell approximately a constant %, so if you want the mana drain to have a constant effect (i.e can cast one less spell) then you need to make it scale with capacity.
Otherwise, such an item would either be too strong early game, or completely useless late game.
% damage means it'll be useless early game, but too strong in the late game. It would make it another net - junk early game but much more cost effective late game when there's more money floating around and the abilities are worth blocking off. Constant damage instead of a constant % is better, because it'll force players to upgrade their mana drain to scale with the upgraded abilties upper tier tanks are given.
Having a "cast one less spell" effect wouldn't be a good constant to follow, because the abilities themselves aren't equal... If you deny a helicopter his missle ability he's unable to dish out 180-900 damage. If you deny a titan the ability to push out one of his abilties, he's unable to push out 1,000-5,000 (or much more considering his abilities are AoE). The problem here is that you paid the same amount of gold to ward off a <1000 damage spell from a 1,000 gold tank as you did to ward off a 1000-5000 AoE damage spell from a 25,000 gold tank. The second problem, is that more gold enters the game late game than it does early game. A % weapon wouldn't match the bounty system because it would mean the cost will be too expensive early game, but more manageable late game.