2010-01-16, 06:21:31
Here we go:
Comparing Demo with Titan is the most stupid thig i've ever heared. 10x Stronger? Titan is 13x more Expensive. If you are still using Demo while others are on Titan you "practice an alternative lifestyle and have special needs". You usually use Demo not longer than 20 minutes, so it should not be directly compared to tanks higher than airship.
Btw. Titan is diverse enough sice only one of his direct damage skills is damaging air
Furthermore it was just a aditionally point and not the most important one.
You also need diversity in the skills of a tank so you can play different strategys. there would be much less need for the wave if arty could hit air.
Diversity doesnt mean one can do everything (I wold call that versatility). diversity does mean everybody has strengths and weaknesses.
Bottom line:
If you remove the weakness against air from the Demo, he becomes imba, boring or both.
Line under the Bottom Line:
I understand why you would wish to change it, and it sucks if a heli comes to your lane when you allready skilled arty. But it would suck even more if the first 15 minutes would be a gray mesh of equal tanks.
scron2 Wrote:Balancing - with comparison to hunter's smoke (change to air and ground) and Demon tank's old decrepify, this change is hardly as impacting as changing what these abilities could hit. It's a balanced suggestion. You calling it unbalanced because it's "imba" says nothing because later game tanks like titan have that kind of a stun that is 10x better... apparently you don't see a problem with that? Is it not "diverse enough for you"? Does that stun need a nerf too? Think about it.It would be even Worse than changing hunters smoke because you use demo in early game and in early game you have 5 ground tanks (tinker, scout, light, antigrav, demo) and 2 air tanks( heli and medi) so you get 40% more targets if you can hit air. Arty makes no percentual dmg so the airtanks (lower hp) would be affected more than groud tanks.
Comparing Demo with Titan is the most stupid thig i've ever heared. 10x Stronger? Titan is 13x more Expensive. If you are still using Demo while others are on Titan you "practice an alternative lifestyle and have special needs". You usually use Demo not longer than 20 minutes, so it should not be directly compared to tanks higher than airship.
Btw. Titan is diverse enough sice only one of his direct damage skills is damaging air

scron2 Wrote:BRealism - once again a flying object hitting a flying object. Nice use of the word usually. There is no "realism argument here" if you read the topic, and if you were smart enough you wouldn't mention it at all.I can read it was brought up by qweqqweq.
qweqqweq Wrote:I think it would make sense if the artillery shot hit air and stunned it but only while the projectile was still traveling in the air. I just don't know how hard it would be to get it to work that way, how buggy it might be, and if it would be worth it. It would be really cool to smack a heli with it though.And by the way its nearly impossible to hit an flying object with one balistic projectile. Thats why you shoot ducks with a shot gun and dont use rifles for duckhunt. (Flak uses the same principle by exploding in the path of the aircraft)
Furthermore it was just a aditionally point and not the most important one.
scron2 Wrote:Diversity: Why is that important? It's a low-level tank that won't see any more action past level 10 at best. Buffing it slightly to make it better is not going to hurt diversity. If anything it adds more diversity because it can do more. And it is balanced so it doesn't hurt what you hold so dearly and vaguely as diversity.Diversity is important throughout the whole game. otherwhise we wouldn't need 7 different start tanks. We need diversity between tanks. Light tank is a good alrounder, Heli has advantages at movement, antigrav ist strong at short range and can be used log time due its dimension shift. demo is strong against ground because he can take more damage than every other tank and got his arty. You could not counter demo with a heli anymore if arty could hit air, because Demo would have lost its disatvantage against air.
You also need diversity in the skills of a tank so you can play different strategys. there would be much less need for the wave if arty could hit air.
Diversity doesnt mean one can do everything (I wold call that versatility). diversity does mean everybody has strengths and weaknesses.
Bottom line:
If you remove the weakness against air from the Demo, he becomes imba, boring or both.
Line under the Bottom Line:
I understand why you would wish to change it, and it sucks if a heli comes to your lane when you allready skilled arty. But it would suck even more if the first 15 minutes would be a gray mesh of equal tanks.
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