2010-08-11, 15:52:55
Velocity2k Wrote:The question is if we should use elo or points for the limit.
I think we should use points but not elo (this is very obvious to me, but i don't know why it is chosen to use elo, which i think is not a wise decision).
The meaning to have points based on elo, is that the points can also evaluate the leaving/dc of a player. This is important that we filter out the players who leave/dc a lot, yet still get elo higher than 1515+.
If a player leaves a game, but his teammate makes a win anyway, the leaver also has the elo increase (but also leaver penalty), am i right? If so, a noob leaver can somehow get enough elo to join 1515+ bot, and ruin games there.
For example, in my first 1515+ game, I and slider in a team vs. mc_ren and another good player. But mc_ren's team has 2 leaver at very early of the game. So it becomes 3v5. And because mc_ren got more golds plus his good skill, and we cannot stop our team from feeding mc, we lost the game without any chance to win.
What i mean is, the leavers can ruin the game. And we should stop them to join 1515+ bot. And the most straightforward way is to use points instead of elo.
And in the league beta page, the points is the default way to rank players, isn't it?
Velocity2k Wrote:Another question: should we disallow 15xx+ players to join the second bot and only allow them to join the 15xx+ bot?
People join the 1515+ bot and immediately leave because there are no other players...
If we ban good players to join low level bots, that will be an even more not wise decision. One of the benefit for good players, is that they can freely enter any bot without limitation. If they want high level game, they go to 1515+ bot, if they want a fast and easy (but risky) game, they go to low level bot.
It is natural for human being, that if you go to somewhere and after that you cannot come back, you will think about whether should I go or not. Similarly to the Btanks league games, some players may feed on purpose to lower down their rank, just because they would hang in low level bot for fast&easy game.
Indeed the 1515+ bot fills slow at this time, yesterday i wait like 1 hour for a game. But i still believe that if give more time that people will slowly get used to always go to the right bot they want. And it will fill faster.