2010-09-29, 21:27:44
To GEN_Schwarzkopf,
1. There is NO btt rule allowing to delay/rmk game.
By the rules, the game is only rmk if someone dc in game and the other team agrees (now, referees can force to rmk if dc). It means: if the game time is made, both teams must come on time. Otherwise the team lose the game. Only in case both teams think the game time we made is bad, they can decide to do it at another time. But if they cannot make an agreement, the default game time shall apply.
So there are no "CONFLICT OF INTEREST". We decided your team to do 3 games in 24 hours, then your team have to do it. You can blame the game time we made was bad. But you cannot say "Essi being a jerk".
As a team leader, I question your understanding to the BTT rules.
2.
The game time I posted was clear. The email I informed Prohunter was even more clear that your team will have 3 games. None of the other 3 teams have problems reading the game time I made.
Even now, you still never admit that it is (at least part of) your mistake that you "thought" you had 2 games. Mostly because of this "thought", your team is now end up in this situation.
I don't think "we thought we had 2 games" can be used to defend you don't complain in time about "3 games are too much".
3.
Be aware it is your Saturday night. Not mine, I "received" it on 6am Sunday morning. And remember, I had to stay up whole night to referee your 2nd game, started at 3:30am and finished before 6am. I fell asleep right after that, and didn't see your message until afternoon, when there is only about 7 hours left. I use only PMs/emails to contact all teams. In that case, what do you expect me to do?
4.
Yes, English is not my 1st language. And i try to put it more clear if you didn't understand.
I was saying, the way you asked the 3rd game to be delayed, is more like "we want to delay it (msg sent on Sunday morning), so the (Sunday evening) game has to be decided to delay right now" regardless I was sleeping after a whole night stay up, regardless the other team cannot get the message in time, regardless they were preparing/coming for your game as scheduled by giving up their real life as well. When they really came, you told them the decision, why they must accept it? Why they have to spend their time to come here for nothing? And after they refused, they became "uncooperative" people.
1. There is NO btt rule allowing to delay/rmk game.
By the rules, the game is only rmk if someone dc in game and the other team agrees (now, referees can force to rmk if dc). It means: if the game time is made, both teams must come on time. Otherwise the team lose the game. Only in case both teams think the game time we made is bad, they can decide to do it at another time. But if they cannot make an agreement, the default game time shall apply.
So there are no "CONFLICT OF INTEREST". We decided your team to do 3 games in 24 hours, then your team have to do it. You can blame the game time we made was bad. But you cannot say "Essi being a jerk".
As a team leader, I question your understanding to the BTT rules.
2.
GEN_Schwarzkopf Wrote:I've told you over and over we thought we had 2 games. Stop saying that. I have extensive evidence of all my communications with my team that I thought we had only 2 games on Saturday. Don't use your assumptions as evidence.
The game time I posted was clear. The email I informed Prohunter was even more clear that your team will have 3 games. None of the other 3 teams have problems reading the game time I made.
Even now, you still never admit that it is (at least part of) your mistake that you "thought" you had 2 games. Mostly because of this "thought", your team is now end up in this situation.
I don't think "we thought we had 2 games" can be used to defend you don't complain in time about "3 games are too much".
3.
GEN_Schwarzkopf Wrote:I messaged you the moment I knew we had a Sunday game, which as Saturday night. The game could have been rescheduled right there.
Be aware it is your Saturday night. Not mine, I "received" it on 6am Sunday morning. And remember, I had to stay up whole night to referee your 2nd game, started at 3:30am and finished before 6am. I fell asleep right after that, and didn't see your message until afternoon, when there is only about 7 hours left. I use only PMs/emails to contact all teams. In that case, what do you expect me to do?
4.
GEN_Schwarzkopf Wrote:olivercamel Wrote:Even if the request from the Dream Team is 100% reasonable, the way they requests it is more like "i want to do it, so this has to be done right now" regardless the other people's feeling. And if the other people refuse to do so, they become "uncooperative".
This has to be done now? Wrong, we're asking it be done later. English isn't your first language is it? Please don't make assumptions on the tone of my discussion.
Yes, English is not my 1st language. And i try to put it more clear if you didn't understand.
I was saying, the way you asked the 3rd game to be delayed, is more like "we want to delay it (msg sent on Sunday morning), so the (Sunday evening) game has to be decided to delay right now" regardless I was sleeping after a whole night stay up, regardless the other team cannot get the message in time, regardless they were preparing/coming for your game as scheduled by giving up their real life as well. When they really came, you told them the decision, why they must accept it? Why they have to spend their time to come here for nothing? And after they refused, they became "uncooperative" people.