Dream Team Semi final

[olivercamel]

Round 5 was scheduled unfairly: Only 1 team had to play 3 games, ALL other teams only played 1 game. It is not fair for 1 team to have 3 games and all other teams to have 1 game. It doesn't matter what team it is, it is unfair scheduling to them and they should have a right to reschedule at least 1 of the games.

So, in the future if you schedule it this way, be sure to provide some flexibility for any team that has to play more games in the same weekend than other teams. Learn from this.

I think I finally got what you complained. You are saying it is wrong to let a team (any team) to play 3 games in a weekend. But not only saying it is wrong to let Dream Team to play 3 games in a weekend.

I have to say I misunderstood your point at the beginning of this post (maybe my english not good enough). It is also partly because you sent me the msg saying the time I made was "bloody confusing", and saying the btt rule is not good. Those sound to me more like to deny completely the work/effort I and other btt-staff made for BTT. Then I got angry and said some emotional words. But glad that I apologized in time.

Indeed, the Dream Team was forced to play 3 game in a weekend. Multiple reasons led to this result:
(1) DT had 2 dc in previous round, so 1 game was delayed. Otherwise you got only 2 game in the weekend.
(2) I scheduled DT to do 3 games in a weekend.
(3) DT give feedback too late.

For (1) I think we cannot blame anyone, because no one wanted and no one can control the dc. What i can say is bad luck.

For (2), it is my reason (you may call it my fault) to schedule 3 games for 1 team. But on my defense, I didn't do this on purpose especially against DT. Because:

(a) I didn't realize 3 games are too much for a team when make the schedule. (cuz i normally play more than 3+ league game in a weekend). But now I agree it is different when in the case of organizing a whole team for high competition games. 3 games are a little hard to accomplish when people have normal life.
(b) I wanted to finish the BTT faster, because the later it finishes, the more time I and other BTT-staff will spend. And some other players also wanted it fast.
© The schedule is not the "bias/prejudice/discrimination" only for DT. Simply because, if Next-Gen wins, they could've have 3 games too. And I have no reason to have "bias/prejudice/discrimination" for any team. If I really hate DT, I could've found an execuse to stop you from registration already.

For (3), what I can say is, if you tell me 3 games are too much before the 1st game, I could think about it and maybe change the schedule already from there. I tried my best to inform DT 38 hours before the 1st game. And the msg was clear that you will have 3 games. (I don't accept you saying the game time was confusing.) Maybe I should give more than 38 hours for your team (this is what we can imporve in the next BTT), but honestly, your team should share the responsibility that you didn't give me the feedback fast enough.



So, your point is taken that the BTT organizer should avoid the possibility that any team can have too much games (>= 3) in the same weekend, (preferrablely 1 game only). This is what we can imporve in the next BTT (if there will be next one).

Your point about the BTT organizer should provide more flexibility for a team is also taken. In fact, we already gave like 38 hours flexibility to discuss the re-scheduling. But there is still room to imporve the flexibility, I agree.

About the rmk, I will try to contact Essi and suggest Old Sluts team to have a rmk with DT. I can try to help to make it happen, e.g. if Old sluts don't have enough players, I can play too.

But unfortunately, I still have to say that no one can force the rmk to happen, because the rmk is agaisnt the BTT rules. If we ignore the rules to force the rmk, it is not fair for the other teams. You can say the BTT rules are not good enough, which I agreed before and will think about to imporve it in the future, but what done is done. So now it is still Essi and Old Sluts who decide whether or not a rmk can happen. I sent message to Essi already, but didn't hear the result from him yet. Will announce the result later.


PS1: I think we shouldn't delete Agginator's post. His word is a bit emotional. But everyone has right to speak. You cannot shut up someone because you don't want to listen to him in a forum. (btw, I am also called a person "with problem of personality").

PS2: If you don't want to answer more about Inde's the "fairness" question, I think the forum admin can close this thread.