2011-11-27, 00:18:45
(This post was last modified: 2011-11-27, 00:21:44 by olivercamel.)
If we make 4 teams in a group, introduce "draw game" is needed. Otherwise, if a team already loses 2 games, the 3rd game for them will be meaningless, because they will not go to next phase regardless they win or lose in the 3rd game. I worry in that case some team may not even show up. If we don't have "draw" game, then we shouldn't have the 1st phase - 4 teams play in a group - at all. But this results in only single elimination, i.e. if a team meets another pro team at early time, they lose the chance to play further. If we make 4 teams in a group, each team will at least play 3 games with 3 different teams.
Another reason to draw the game if it doesn't finish in the limited time, is to force the winning team play more aggressively. Therefore less defense + camp tactic. Even if a team gets all cps, they still cannot relax, but focus on destroy the base. I think the game will be more fun to watch, also there will be new base attack/defense tactic used in BTT.
This is also why I suggest to use team K-D as 2nd factor to rank the team, but not the win/lose relationship. If a player knows that the K-D will matter the result, he/she should focus on the play every moment.
And about a proper time limitation:
In BTT2010, the average game time of 24 games is 75min. Half of the games end within 1hour10min. And please consider that was 5v5. In case of 4v4, the money received is a lot more than 5v5. And the game will be determined earlier. So I do think most of the games can be finished within 1 hour. And if we force the game to finish in 1 hour, maybe we can have 2 games in a row between any 2 teams. This makes a registered team play more games. 2 hours for 2 games in a row is not that much, isn't it?
After all, the draw game will be only used during group phase. In the 2nd phase all games must go to the end as usual. The 1st phase is more like to select 2 better teams from the 4. I think good teams will make it anyway under this 1 hour draw game rule. Also, generally speaking the competition level is relatively lower at the group phase, than the 2nd phase. So it is better not to give it too long time, from a perspective of watching the games.
@UnifiedDoom
I still think we shouldn't restrict who will be in which team. i.e. if a people can find 5 alpha players and make them play together, then so be it.
But first, there are a lot more than 5 alpha players. And 2nd, a team is not simply sum the personal skills, the chemistry between the members is also important.
For US/Asia teams they will receive the money converted into their local currency, which is equivalent to 100EUR.
Another reason to draw the game if it doesn't finish in the limited time, is to force the winning team play more aggressively. Therefore less defense + camp tactic. Even if a team gets all cps, they still cannot relax, but focus on destroy the base. I think the game will be more fun to watch, also there will be new base attack/defense tactic used in BTT.
This is also why I suggest to use team K-D as 2nd factor to rank the team, but not the win/lose relationship. If a player knows that the K-D will matter the result, he/she should focus on the play every moment.
And about a proper time limitation:
In BTT2010, the average game time of 24 games is 75min. Half of the games end within 1hour10min. And please consider that was 5v5. In case of 4v4, the money received is a lot more than 5v5. And the game will be determined earlier. So I do think most of the games can be finished within 1 hour. And if we force the game to finish in 1 hour, maybe we can have 2 games in a row between any 2 teams. This makes a registered team play more games. 2 hours for 2 games in a row is not that much, isn't it?
After all, the draw game will be only used during group phase. In the 2nd phase all games must go to the end as usual. The 1st phase is more like to select 2 better teams from the 4. I think good teams will make it anyway under this 1 hour draw game rule. Also, generally speaking the competition level is relatively lower at the group phase, than the 2nd phase. So it is better not to give it too long time, from a perspective of watching the games.
@UnifiedDoom
I still think we shouldn't restrict who will be in which team. i.e. if a people can find 5 alpha players and make them play together, then so be it.
But first, there are a lot more than 5 alpha players. And 2nd, a team is not simply sum the personal skills, the chemistry between the members is also important.
For US/Asia teams they will receive the money converted into their local currency, which is equivalent to 100EUR.