I like the general idea.
Is there a problem with ranking all games? Perhaps fake accounts. But other than that it would be good if we would simply rank all games and let new players start with a lower ELO. I think the overall pool of ELO-points needs to be n*1500, right? maybe its okay to save the ELO-points a new player is missing into a pool for that player, and every game he plays he gets some additional beginner points to keep the overall balance.
Then, having "Novice" and "Advanced" games could seperate the players a bit.
Rules for handling the players:
- Let new players start with an ELO of 1300, give them 10 additional points per game, so after 20 games, the new player has all of his pool points.
- Allow all players to join "Novice", allow elo>1400 players to join "Advanced"
- If a player enters the Novice with elo>1400: "We think you should play on the Advanced bot." (possibly kick him with elo>1500, but sometimes you want to play with a friend who is not allowed for the advanced bot or sth like that, so i would say let the player decide)
Actually it would still be possible to play novice games, but as these games will be ranked, too, the player takes the risk to lose a lot of points when losing the game. Also, new players will be encouraged to play on the advanced bot, as they already have recorded stats which they want to improve, or they feel proud to play advanced or whatever. its no longer simply "play a few games and you can play ranked"
At the same time, the stay percentage could be kept for advanced. for novice the percentage could be a bit lower, and if a player leaves and his percentage is lower than the required value, it could result in a one-day-ban. (not after a game in which he stayed)
Nevertheless, this is a lot of work. Maybe a message saying "You are now allowed to play on the ranked bot!" when joining the qualify bot and matching the conditions can already help, since it reminds you of it and whatever. The ELO-method would still be the best solution imho.
Is there a problem with ranking all games? Perhaps fake accounts. But other than that it would be good if we would simply rank all games and let new players start with a lower ELO. I think the overall pool of ELO-points needs to be n*1500, right? maybe its okay to save the ELO-points a new player is missing into a pool for that player, and every game he plays he gets some additional beginner points to keep the overall balance.
Then, having "Novice" and "Advanced" games could seperate the players a bit.
Rules for handling the players:
- Let new players start with an ELO of 1300, give them 10 additional points per game, so after 20 games, the new player has all of his pool points.
- Allow all players to join "Novice", allow elo>1400 players to join "Advanced"
- If a player enters the Novice with elo>1400: "We think you should play on the Advanced bot." (possibly kick him with elo>1500, but sometimes you want to play with a friend who is not allowed for the advanced bot or sth like that, so i would say let the player decide)
Actually it would still be possible to play novice games, but as these games will be ranked, too, the player takes the risk to lose a lot of points when losing the game. Also, new players will be encouraged to play on the advanced bot, as they already have recorded stats which they want to improve, or they feel proud to play advanced or whatever. its no longer simply "play a few games and you can play ranked"
At the same time, the stay percentage could be kept for advanced. for novice the percentage could be a bit lower, and if a player leaves and his percentage is lower than the required value, it could result in a one-day-ban. (not after a game in which he stayed)
Nevertheless, this is a lot of work. Maybe a message saying "You are now allowed to play on the ranked bot!" when joining the qualify bot and matching the conditions can already help, since it reminds you of it and whatever. The ELO-method would still be the best solution imho.