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Ban requirements
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(2012-11-20, 22:34:54)Prog Wrote:
(2012-11-20, 14:06:29)dirtyterror Wrote:
(2012-11-20, 01:00:03)Prog Wrote: Who cares about reasons to get angry, doesn't make flaming any better. I rather have a league with only bad, but friendly players than a bunch of flaming bt-pros.

Topic is not abuot that. Topic is about flaming as the only ban reason. You cant teach ppl how to behave. Focus on doing a good game not kindergarden.
Im trying to hold my self and i suceed in 99% of games, sometimes i flame some 1 he report me and i get a ban. Olthough it was pretty justified.
Focus on the subject.
I only want you admins to notice that if some 1 throw some hard words for some player and in the mean while he play good and team play, you should not ban him just because he got pissed. Thats all.

If some 1 flame and he suck in the meanhile np. ban him even me. But battletanks is not a savoir vivre lesson, remmeber that. Ppl come here from differend reasons sometimes to load off the tensionSmile let them if they can play.

I'm never gonna let them "load off the tension" by flaming, because it destroys the game experience for the other players. There is absolutely no justification for flaming at all. If you disagree and keep on flaming when you feel that you have the right to, you'll get banned. If you can't be "teached how to behave", then sorry, but I don't want you to play this game.




Just for fun I post you some quotes from the ban police of league of legends, which does not work perfectly either, but gets at least some things right:

Quote:Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter?
Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.

Quote:That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned???
a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

You act like a confromistSmile "its going to be like i want, cause i want it to be my way". Im not saying flaming should be justified in 100% cases... Im saying it should not be the only ban reaason when player was pushed to flame. You really dont get so simple issue? TezSick does Saiyuki does and you can't?

And what does it mean you dont want me to play that game:D Are you creator of Btanks? If my or other player bitching anoys you just use /squelch or /ignore command. And btw leage of lgends is kinda differend format of a game my friendSmile We have like 300 active players they have arround 40k so they can offord of banning any of them for 1 single "shit" word. And btw there are many other even more popular games where "game masters" dont give a sh*** about flaming between players and they only focus on hunting ppl who use exploits.

In real life when newspaper bitch about some politician or goverment or any other case you shut it down for 1 week? And there are few titles in the world that use kinda strong words to express their opinionsSmile You dont like it? Dont read it.
And we are talking about a game here dudeSmile if you cant face a kid that play on the other end of the cable dont go into inthernet.

One more time:
flame only ban, when good/dicent player face stupidity = no!watch the context of the whole situation and then decide. Flaming/bitching w/o reason = ban

(2012-11-20, 20:34:25)Max Wrote: "Finally some woice of sense in this duscussion. "
This means that a guy who disagree with you is obligatory wrong? Sad

Well as i told i think "flame" should be ban-able when it's too much. Most of games you play and you flame you have a reason to. This doesn't excuse you to flame, but some times flame is understand-able than doesn't deserve a ban, i agree with that. But the problem is : there are a lot of replays and ban request on league and admins can't just give all their time to watch and try to understand the flammer if he got a good reason to flame or not. And if flaming isn't ban-able then more players will flame (like in quali) because they won't be "punished" for that.

I know you and i know that you never flame for free and you flame only when a guy is pissing you off, but still, they must be objective rules. If you say : you can flame a little but not to much it is too subjective when a request is made. This can't happen.

Well at least you got the point. I agree i cant behave like that and like i said in 99% of games i handle to not get mad. But in case when flamed player banrequest you, he sucked and kinda sabotaged a game i get pissed tell him few words of truth and mad kid is going for a ban? ChilariousBig Grin In this paticular case i hope Grisha got ban to, i didnt put to much atention to this request. For sucking in this game not flaming back if there was any cause i rly dont give a sh*** what does dude on the other side of the world think about me.

Ps. Where's the love i remember you flaming few times so you are in no position to tell me a word about thatSmile
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Messages In This Thread
Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-14, 08:21:45
RE: Ban requirements - by jojoy - 2012-11-19, 21:52:11
RE: Ban requirements - by Max - 2012-11-19, 22:29:12
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-20, 00:00:23
RE: Ban requirements - by Prog - 2012-11-20, 00:14:50
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-20, 00:41:06
RE: Ban requirements - by eSVau - 2012-11-20, 00:39:09
RE: Ban requirements - by Prog - 2012-11-20, 01:00:03
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-20, 14:06:29
RE: Ban requirements - by Prog - 2012-11-20, 22:34:54
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-21, 00:11:38
RE: Ban requirements - by DJantoine - 2012-11-20, 09:50:22
RE: Ban requirements - by Max - 2012-11-20, 10:16:53
RE: Ban requirements - by DJantoine - 2012-11-20, 10:49:24
RE: Ban requirements - by Max - 2012-11-20, 11:26:12
RE: Ban requirements - by Saiyuki - 2012-11-20, 16:20:17
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-20, 18:37:27
RE: Ban requirements - by Max - 2012-11-20, 20:34:25
RE: Ban requirements - by Grischa187 - 2012-11-20, 20:38:35
RE: Ban requirements - by Prog - 2012-11-21, 00:45:10
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-21, 02:29:45
RE: Ban requirements - by Prog - 2012-11-21, 03:19:13
RE: Ban requirements - by EarthR - 2012-11-21, 09:56:18
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-21, 19:38:52
RE: Ban requirements - by EarthR - 2012-11-21, 22:03:06
RE: Ban requirements - by dirtyterror - 2012-11-27, 08:11:44

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