2008-06-08, 04:05:20
Well, since your basis of interpretation of overpowered is only in 1v1 comparison, and no amount of argumentation will make an point involving teammates will work, you still have not countered in the least my other points, namely HP and creeps.
Matter of factly, I've lived the situation of figthing 3v2 with two SF as opponents (and a trader in the background) and while they tried their hardest they never were able to get me with their ultimates. Because:
1- My teammate helped. (And I helped him in turn)
2- I had creep cover.
3- I had a lot of HP.
For the record, we lost the game but it was mostly due because they had an enormous creep advantage. If I'd kept the replay I would have gone and showed it in this thread, showing, as Prog said, that how matter hard they tried to net us it was to no avail. They did succeed a few time on my teammate, because:
1- I was in the base mopping creep (he tried to get weapons in the center shop)
2- He was not covered in his creeps.
But he had much HP, so it took two of them to get him.
Worth mentionning that I was sky fortress myself. Even using my ultimate mano-a-mano did nothing, I was never able to get all necessary ingredients for that "OP" kill mentionned here. It takes a whole lot more than just using the skill to kill someone. All my experiences seeing and using it prove that much. It is however, hard to drive home with words alone, especially if your own experiences were inescapable deaths to you or targeted by you. It seems like I'm part a minority though based on the others posts, though. Still I stand by my conclusions.
Lastly, if trolling is defined by actually trying to debate with arguments without attacking the other party, then I wholly embrace the title.
Matter of factly, I've lived the situation of figthing 3v2 with two SF as opponents (and a trader in the background) and while they tried their hardest they never were able to get me with their ultimates. Because:
1- My teammate helped. (And I helped him in turn)
2- I had creep cover.
3- I had a lot of HP.
For the record, we lost the game but it was mostly due because they had an enormous creep advantage. If I'd kept the replay I would have gone and showed it in this thread, showing, as Prog said, that how matter hard they tried to net us it was to no avail. They did succeed a few time on my teammate, because:
1- I was in the base mopping creep (he tried to get weapons in the center shop)
2- He was not covered in his creeps.
But he had much HP, so it took two of them to get him.
Worth mentionning that I was sky fortress myself. Even using my ultimate mano-a-mano did nothing, I was never able to get all necessary ingredients for that "OP" kill mentionned here. It takes a whole lot more than just using the skill to kill someone. All my experiences seeing and using it prove that much. It is however, hard to drive home with words alone, especially if your own experiences were inescapable deaths to you or targeted by you. It seems like I'm part a minority though based on the others posts, though. Still I stand by my conclusions.
Lastly, if trolling is defined by actually trying to debate with arguments without attacking the other party, then I wholly embrace the title.