2008-08-11, 17:24:52
The medic analogy should just show that a single one can be right, tho 100 say he isn't (I thought with random people this could be seen easier, but it seems I was wrong). You can imagine they are 100 medics who think you got 1 certain disease and just one medic who thinks you got another one and he can be right (maybe becouse he is a better medic, I won't go into this). So this analogy does apply (but of course, not in the sense you interpret it). ; )
I'll just point to the word "everyone", which implies that everyone here would in the opinion sf would be overpowered, which is obviously false. But my wording was missleading (my english is not that good, I'm sorry for that), becouse it of course has something to do with the topic, in a really wide way of interpret the meaning of the connection, but the statement you gave is just false, so it isn't relevant for the current discussion.
Wanna bet on this? You get a tinker with 2 lasers and i get a light tank with 2 basic magics (or 1 if you like) and you will have no chance, even tho you have ~12k more gold. You see that skill/tactics do matter? I guess you might say something like "there's a difference between tinker+2 lasers against light tank and sf against titan", but how can we judge when the difference matters and when it doesn't without being arbitrary? [If you say this compare doesn't fit becouse one refers to a different tank/weapon ratio, i'll respond that at the sf vs titan, the sf has much more weapons as well, becouse the titan had to invest the gold into the tank. So effective it's +0 gold, not +20k - If he did upgrades it's even -x. A heli with hulls and weapon can handle a goblin tank as well.]
Btw:
Here a replay, which doesn't show the mentioned allegedly easy way of coping with sfs if they go to the side lanes cp, but it show how more sf don't win. You'll remember that one.
Quote: how does "I suppose everyone here is lying and the SF is actually a balanced tank" have nothing to do with the topic? lol..
I'll just point to the word "everyone", which implies that everyone here would in the opinion sf would be overpowered, which is obviously false. But my wording was missleading (my english is not that good, I'm sorry for that), becouse it of course has something to do with the topic, in a really wide way of interpret the meaning of the connection, but the statement you gave is just false, so it isn't relevant for the current discussion.
Quote:How can 20k+ extra gold not equal an advantage... Where else in the game to you find such a huge discrepency? It has nothing to do with skill/tactics, just one overpowered ability. Again, use common sense.
Wanna bet on this? You get a tinker with 2 lasers and i get a light tank with 2 basic magics (or 1 if you like) and you will have no chance, even tho you have ~12k more gold. You see that skill/tactics do matter? I guess you might say something like "there's a difference between tinker+2 lasers against light tank and sf against titan", but how can we judge when the difference matters and when it doesn't without being arbitrary? [If you say this compare doesn't fit becouse one refers to a different tank/weapon ratio, i'll respond that at the sf vs titan, the sf has much more weapons as well, becouse the titan had to invest the gold into the tank. So effective it's +0 gold, not +20k - If he did upgrades it's even -x. A heli with hulls and weapon can handle a goblin tank as well.]
Btw:
Quote:Yes I love a good debate, but generally only persist when I realize I am correct.Who would persist if he thought he's wrong? But as this debate seems to go a bit too far ot and both of us don't seem to change their opinion, we shouldn't use this thread for further discussion, instead use pm.
Here a replay, which doesn't show the mentioned allegedly easy way of coping with sfs if they go to the side lanes cp, but it show how more sf don't win. You'll remember that one.