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Gamestart/HB Suggestion
#1
Reading recent posts, i've got an idea which would probably improve BT a bit, and also could deal with the HB problem. As this idea connects both aspects, im writing this as one suggestion, but this of course does not mean that single parts of it can be implemented without the others.

Problem 1: At the start of a game, red choses the gamemode. While he is busy doing that, other players write their starting commands like -zoom xxxx and stuff, or try to speak with other people. This often causes the game mode/options to not be visible at all.

Problem 2: It gives the host a little disadvantage, as he obviously can't type commands while chosing the mode, but maybe wants to type even more commands than other people, as there are commands only accessable to red. This might be small, but it's there.

Problem 3: Depending on how long the host takes to set the gamemode, players will face a different starting game situation, as the map starts giving them money and sending creeps no matter if the host quickly presses Enter key for normal mode, or takes some time to chose some custom mode options. This also might be small, but it seems just unnecessary to me, and makes BT a little less competitive and makes it harder to refine starting strategies.



So my starting game suggestion is: do not really start the game (giving money/tick, sending creeps) until the host has chosen the game mode. Additionally (if possible), do not allow players to type while host is chosing the mode. If this isnt possible, another solution for problem 1 should be implemented, like telling the mode in a leaderboard in the start.



And here is where High Bounty kicks in: my suggestion is that after the host made his options, and the game would normally (Tongue ) start, an ingame video starts if he chose High Bounty. This video (like the ones you can see when playing the wc3 campaign) should tell you some stuff about BT. for example:

-Buy a Tank (Tinkers are not for newbies)
-Buy a Gun
-You can teleport between CP points with a tank ability
-These are the most important Shop's
-the normal mode is the mode the game is balanced for, other modes just lack balance.
-.....................

This video should not be cancelable, and would improve the quality of Beginners while also giving HB players a stimulation to play normal mode after seeing it X times. 8)
However, this video should not exceed the duration of 1 minute, the game would start afterwards.

Additionally, i suggest to rename High Bounty to "Beginner" mode.
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#2
How about making normal mode start as "High Bounty". And there is a custom option of "Pro Mode" starts as normal. Big Grin
Trolololo
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#3
how about you say something to my suggestion :roll:
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#4
His comment was just as weak as yours
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#5
Princess_Bob Wrote:His comment was just as weak as yours

Your is worse than theirBig Grin (FFA! )
I am so good that I don't even need to type -rc because I never die !
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#6
But there must be a text with intro: "This intro is brought to you by: DoYouKnowAstra" :lol:
Ok. You want high bounty to be played less. But if people want to play it, then let them play... They dont deserve such a punishment..
We already play all private games in normal mode. We dont even need no-exploder-tinker-trader etc.. But these options are for people who play public games for fun. And there is no need to say hb is a fun mode because people play it for fun.
And hb makes the public games really fast. I sometimes buy 4 acid cannons in 20-25 min.. :lol:
Trolololo
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#7
About the movie: I have no words... This is just NOT ACCEPTABLE.

About the problems: yeah, although these problems are small, they do bother me. And I always wanted a 15-20 seconds delay before game starts. Or even 30 seconds delay. And during this delay everyone must have an ability to:
1. Buy from any tanks shop available on the map(get rid of pilot teleporting ability);
2. Buy from any weapon or item shop available on the map(but only after buying a tank);
3. If a player misses to do so, randomize/leave as it is now.

I think this would make game more fair. And randomization could show newbies what actually they have to do without making mistake first time.
And Thou shalt trust... The Seer.
Що, блядь, навчився читати українською?
Гнойный буйволизм, товарищи, - это ГБ!
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#8
i'm just wondering...

do we really JUST need a warning and a movie for HB mode? Why stop there? Maybe exodus can plant a virus in the map that activates wheneven hb mode is picked. I'm not suggesting anything elaborate. Just a typical, run-of-the-mill pop-up virus that alt tabs you out of any window every 5 minutes and prompts you to save the manitees, subscribe to a porn site, and get virus protectiion (warning, your files could be contaminated!). In addition, perhaps it's high time that we track down HB players using their IP's so that we can torture them and blow up their houses. It's for their own good of course since they're just fucking up all of battle net by playing HB mode battle tanks.
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#9
qweqqweq
ROFLBig Grin
And Thou shalt trust... The Seer.
Що, блядь, навчився читати українською?
Гнойный буйволизм, товарищи, - это ГБ!
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#10
HAHA. Pro mode DOES sound like a good idea [Normal Pro Mode].

Video: Bad. Uncancellable: Fail.
About your problem... Ive proposed a very simple solution to the exact same thing: Preparation time.

Yes dota does it, and it IS good. Just like 10-30seconds should be enough OR have 1min+ prep time and a command to signal ready so in clan/team games you can all be ready way before 'prep' time is up BUT that does require more work from exo.

I dont know how much work it would take to freeze the base but i dont think it would be more work than that. Make: Cannot move tanks or units out of base at all, No income, Start timer at end of time.
(then theres the special tank shop and middle item shop to consider)
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#11
Looks like a good idea. Wait time: 30 sec. And people can write -r (ready) and when all write -r game starts without waiting 30 sec.
Trolololo
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#12
There was a vote some time ago, just about the topic when to start the game. I think it turned out, that most of the people didn't want that delay or at least couldn't come up with a good solution for everyone.

Back then, people also wanted to choose in the beginning, whether the game starts with delay or without. This won't work that well. So when I implement this, it will be a fixed time at the beginning of every game. I think 20 seconds will be sufficient. I think this idea is ok. It's just up to you guys to decide, if this should be implemented.
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#13
Exodus Wrote:It's just up to you guys to decide, if this should be implemented.
yes, it should. Count my voice!Smile

Exodus Wrote:I think 20 seconds will be sufficient.
20 or 30 seconds - this is a question of beta testing;-) This is not crucial here because we can change it.

horselance Wrote:Looks like a good idea. Wait time: 30 sec. And people can write -r (ready) and when all write -r game starts without waiting 30 sec.
If it should be 30 seconds or more - yeah, may be -r command could be fine. But with 20 seconds it is useless. IMO.

And also there is one more thing to consider.
If it is hard to freeze world before beginning you can omit this freeze instead starting game exactly in 20 seconds without -r command. So every single game will be in exact same starting conditions as any other single game.

_Edit:
Strange that wc3 does not allow to set some parameters before game starts. It could be useful to set game mode before game start.
And Thou shalt trust... The Seer.
Що, блядь, навчився читати українською?
Гнойный буйволизм, товарищи, - это ГБ!
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#14
Vomitus Wrote:
Exodus Wrote:It's just up to you guys to decide, if this should be implemented.
yes, it should. Count my voice!Smile

+1
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#15
Dr.Popitz Wrote:
Vomitus Wrote:
Exodus Wrote:It's just up to you guys to decide, if this should be implemented.
yes, it should. Count my voice!Smile

+1

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#16
Prog Wrote:
Dr.Popitz Wrote:
Vomitus Wrote:yes, it should. Count my voice!Smile

+1

-1

+1
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#17
TBH the forums isnt really a good representation of active bt players but, even if it turns out to have a fair amount MORe negative criticism, you could remove it in the next version or fix. But then again, what are the testers for?
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#18
http://forum.btanks.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=1788

that's the link to the freeze time at the start poll that bennie started a long-ass time ago. at the time i'm posting this only 22% were against a freeze at the start and 78% wanted the freeze.
Why's the rothchild family crest and the illuminati symbol on my 1 dollar bill? Why do rich and powerful American "christian" leaders have gay sex and worship a giant 40 foot stone owl at Beach Grove every year? Why doesn't anyone care?
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#19
wow this is old now rename hb noob mode ruined btanks forever this is a serious suggestion
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