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Weapons
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I do agree it's using the same formula. I believe there just is a new factor that should be put into the equation: Firerate. Higher Firerate is better then Lower Firerate... Higher firerate will always leave into less damage waste. I'll go straight to the extreme case for you guys to understand. If I have a weapon A doing 1000 damage fire rate 10 seconds and weapon be doing 10 damage fire rate .1 second. They both have a 100dps... Now, try to kill something with 1001 damage... It will take weapon A 10 seconds (hit at 0 and hit at 10) and cannon B 10 seconds... HEY, it's the same, what is that punk that about... Now, there s 3 creeps with 100 hp each around your target... of COURSE, you can be lucky and kill your target in the first 2 hits with weapon A but the odds are... 6.25%... Odds are you will kill creep 1 at 0, then 10 seconds to kill creep 3 then hit your target twice... and creep 2 suffered 0 damage... took you 30 seconds... Weapon B: smack all creeps fairly evenly... creep 1 2 and 3 will all die at second 4 and target at 14 seconds... that is LESS then half of weapon B and you killed all 3 creeps and your target...
The only case weapon A is better then weapon B is where 0 hits are to be wasted on targets other then the main target. This virtually never happens. Even with spells like rocket hall from heavy tank... I usually run in there which will create my weapon to fire on a target before I use rocket hall...

This is an extremely case... but this is why cannons such as lightning and confusion magic are virtually never used. The only difference between these and rocket, fear and so on is the firerate... yet... noone wanna take them...

What I suggest is: Average firerate = .75 lets say.
DPS1 = (GOLD COST / 15 * 1000) / RANGE (your original formula)
DPS2 = DPS1 ((Firerate/.75/5)+0.8) (FireRates .33 and under are concidered as .33)
(FireRates Above 1.5 seconds are concidered as 1.5)
Damage = DPS x Firerate

So, when creating a weapon, you need to think of the following: GoldCost, Range, Firerate (Damage is automatically decided)

What this would do is: Let's pretend a weapon is attacking at 0.1 per second (LASER) (counted as .33 in the formula)
It would do: 88.8% of the damage it currently does
Same for fear... flamer...

Now, weapons attacking at 1 per second:
106% more DPS then before... a bonus of 6% damage just for being slower.

Weapons at 1 attack per 1.5 second:
120% more DPS... Might help to see some new weapons around... Slower hard hitting weapons...

Only exception to this I can really think of is Energy Torpedoes... I really don't want those to do 20% more DPS. I'd probably reduce it's cost to 2650 (high enough to prevent scout torpedo combo).
Also, there needs to be some kind of factor for multi target weapons such as Light Fantastic and FireArrow... I virtually NEVER see firearrow being used... the reason is quite simple... let's pretend we have 2 heavy tanks... they both run into each other and use their ult... The tank with firearrow just lost 66% of it's DPS cause it has only 1 target left... the 1 with rocketswarm still has it's full DPS...

Anyway, think I've put enough into this... let's see what the others think.
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Messages In This Thread
Weapons - by NoobStrike - 2008-06-16, 17:40:47
Re: Weapons - by Exodus - 2008-06-16, 17:46:18
Re: Weapons - by DerSatan - 2008-06-16, 18:09:01
Re: Weapons - by NoobStrike - 2008-06-16, 18:19:32
Re: Weapons - by RedNova - 2008-06-16, 21:57:15
Re: Weapons - by NoobStrike - 2008-06-16, 22:51:29
Re: Weapons - by horselance - 2008-06-16, 23:16:22
Re: Weapons - by DerSatan - 2008-06-17, 02:26:25
Re: Weapons - by Felli - 2008-06-17, 14:36:55
Re: Weapons - by Carcharoth2 - 2008-06-17, 16:34:05
Re: Weapons - by NoobStrike - 2008-06-17, 17:02:24
Re: Weapons - by RedNova - 2008-06-17, 17:14:46
Re: Weapons - by horselance - 2008-06-17, 17:22:44
Re: Weapons - by horselance - 2008-06-17, 17:34:09
Re: Weapons - by NoobStrike - 2008-06-17, 17:54:30
Re: Weapons - by DerSatan - 2008-06-17, 17:58:46
Re: Weapons - by Exodus - 2008-06-17, 18:04:49
Re: Weapons - by RedNova - 2008-06-17, 18:10:54
Re: Weapons - by NoobStrike - 2008-06-17, 21:00:40
Re: Weapons - by Vomitus - 2008-06-19, 20:15:26
Re: Weapons - by TKF - 2008-06-22, 14:42:23

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