http://league.btanks.net/game.php?gameid=11524
wonderful game, we had bad luck with teal, light force had also some handicaps.
what the fuck was wrong that we have lost, my team was very good !!
maybe some tips for me, some improvement for my gameplay ??
thank you
ICE2607 Wrote:http://league.btanks.net/game.php?gameid=11524
wonderful game, we had bad luck with teal, light force had also some handicaps.
what the fuck was wrong that we have lost, my team was very good !!
maybe some tips for me, some improvement for my gameplay ??
thank you
First : Dont pick your tank and buy weapon faster go random tank by pushing "r"
Second : you had bad luck you had to play vs FeedMeMore hes very good player, but i don t know if i am allowed to say his real name^^
Third : i would say upgrading your start weapon in your case weapons is better
Fourth : dont save too long when enemys get weaps/hulls they will creep much better than you
Fifth : dont tell your mates they are noobs just watching stats,because some of them werent and dont tell them you lose a game after 18 minutes xD and
just dont tell them what do do the whole time antigrave is a good tank even in mid game you flamed a bit to yur mates
teal isnt that noob you made him
Sixth : you played well and safe not too offensive i liked that very much but u just saved too long what wasnt intelligent gl hf in your other games i would like
to play vs you to see how you act in other games =)
ArGoLi Wrote:First : Dont pick your tank and buy weapon faster go random tank by pushing "r"
Second : you had bad luck you had to play vs FeedMeMore hes very good player, but i don t know if i am allowed to say his real name^^
Third : i would say upgrading your start weapon in your case weapons is better
Fourth : dont save too long when enemys get weaps/hulls they will creep much better than you
Fifth : dont tell your mates they are noobs just watching stats,because some of them werent and dont tell them you lose a game after 18 minutes xD and
just dont tell them what do do the whole time antigrave is a good tank even in mid game you flamed a bit to yur mates
teal isnt that noob you made him
Sixth : you played well and safe not too offensive i liked that very much but u just saved too long what wasnt intelligent gl hf in your other games i would like
to play vs you to see how you act in other games =)
first: n/c
second: i dont care about names, just skilled or unskilled, hes an enemy
third: i never waste money on upgrades, i will upgrade swarm if i have 5 of them
fourth: u r right, but i dont like to waste money on tanks because i only get half back. maybe it will be some day different and i get whole money back. then i ll buy more tanks
fifth: i dont watch stats, i control my tank thru minimap and watch their gameplay, and they were noobs, alot noob moves. thats the point
sixth:there are not so much short ranged weapons, ice cannon, poison, flamer, laser, blaster, swarm. so the only weapon i can buy before is ice cannon or i change my range.
i like the magics because they damage thru armor, i really dont know if its still like that, is it changed ?
so in the end, u wanna say, i have to creep more.
ICE2607 Wrote:i like the magics because they damage thru armor, i really dont know if its still like that, is it changed ?
so in the end, u wanna say, i have to creep more.
Every weapon deals spell damage and ignores armor, doesn't matter if they are named "magic" or not. Was always that way because it's based on a spell (phoenixfire).
Prog Wrote:Every weapon deals spell damage and ignores armor, doesn't matter if they are named "magic" or not. Was always that way because it's based on a spell (phoenixfire).
if this is true which sense makes the armor of the tanks then? earth robot can increase it by gran. defence - so it would be useless against weaps.. or?
is it only reducing dam by creeps and builds?
ArGoLi Wrote:Second : you had bad luck you had to play vs FeedMeMore hes very good player, but i don t know if i am allowed to say his real name^^
it's equiem and everyone knows since he wrote his 3 accs to his northrend-server info right side
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
well okay if you see it this way its okay too
like prog said the magics doesnt hit trough armor but they are good choose anyway
well and say what you want you just saved too long^^
feedmemore tactic was much intelligenter, because he had 6,5 k gold when you got your sky tank and he had a kill less 3 deads more but just more than 100 creeps more
okay aggi , hes equiem i didnt knew he posted his names
and the gran defense of earth robot includes dmg taken by weapons the other skill of earth only increases his armor but the gran. defense the dmg taken by weaps
wow my english sux really hard sry for that
and @ ice what i wantet to say too is that your mates were average league bot players so dont blame everybody to be a noob just because he isnt as good as you.
you wasnt better when you started playing bt and those 2 players werent totaly noobs just unlucky thrust me i watched the replay and i think i see more of them than you
Prog Wrote:Every weapon deals spell damage and ignores armor, doesn't matter if they are named "magic" or not. Was always that way because it's based on a spell (phoenixfire).
so its the same if i have a laser or a poison magic ?
just the damage to buildings is different, right.
i saw that magics deal only 35% dmg to buildings, siege does 200% some like that, isnt it ?
what is the armor for ?!
//edit
|k, i read it, every weapon is magical, every creep and building is physical.
|so it does not matter which weapon i buy, it deals the same damage to the enemy thru armor.
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|he had 3704 gold more, the problem are the skills, he used swarm rockets also.
|the mid sucks also, i dont get enough creeps like on lane, on lane i have sky tank + iron hull + electro + 2 basics after 20 mins
|on mid lane, i could buy after 20 mins sky tank and had 2 basics, so its better in mid to use swarm rockets to creep a bit more or faster.
|i lost control of my gameplay, normally i bash the weakest link, but i could not in this game, so annoying -.-
Air ships plasma rain sucks vs buildings, I guess it deals only 1/3 of the damage against buildings, so does sky tanks flame strike, and I'm not sure about thunder quake. I also think the frost robots ice rain also doesn't deal full damage to structures, but it deals quite much so I'm not sure it does 100%.
Most other abilties does full damage against structures.
Physical "magic" deals 35% to buildings. Weapons deal 100%.
Air ships plasma rain, flamestrike, thunder quake and ice rain do indeed deal less (I think it is 50%) damage to buildings. I didn't know that until now as well and it's not mentioned in the tooltips.
Prog Wrote:Air ships plasma rain, flamestrike, thunder quake and ice rain do indeed deal less (I think it is 50%) damage to buildings. I didn't know that until now as well and it's not mentioned in the tooltips.
I think it should be mentioned in tooltips, as players are not aware that those abilities deal less damage against structures.
ArGoLi Wrote:First : Dont pick your tank and buy weapon faster go random tank by pushing "r"
Second : you had bad luck you had to play vs FeedMeMore hes very good player, but i don t know if i am allowed to say his real name^^
Third : i would say upgrading your start weapon in your case weapons is better
Fourth : dont save too long when enemys get weaps/hulls they will creep much better than you
Fifth : dont tell your mates they are noobs just watching stats,because some of them werent and dont tell them you lose a game after 18 minutes xD and
just dont tell them what do do the whole time antigrave is a good tank even in mid game you flamed a bit to yur mates
teal isnt that noob you made him
Sixth : you played well and safe not too offensive i liked that very much but u just saved too long what wasnt intelligent gl hf in your other games i would like
to play vs you to see how you act in other games =)
So I'll go with the same layout.
1st: Not always the best choice but usually a good one if you're going mid picking random.
2st: Its not really a secret anymore I really dont think I was playing well that game, especially not the early game. My creeping was fine but messed up way too much in the battles.
3st: Indeed upgrading those first two basic magics or investing a bit more into weapons would have been the better choice in the beginning. Only case I wouldent upgrade is when you're really hurting for a new tank or a quick hull. I dont think you really needed either here so I would have upgraded.
4st: Saving is fine in some cases but I felt like you were a bit too far behind around the 15th minute. If you're not going for a very fast Air Ship or Thunder tank, get an Iron Hull. Its just 625~ gold cost and it usually pays off quite fast thru not duying, being able to help your teammates a bit more or grabbing a few more kills early.
5th: Gotta agree with this. Also, I dont think telling him to save for a Frost Tank with very low hp was such a good idea. He was actually on the right track with getting a gold hull(and at that time he was on par in income), instead you "forced" him into being the weakest link for even more time.
6th: The build you used has a lot of flaws. If you're going aggressive like fairly early Poison Magic usually means, its better to go Poison -> Teleport -> Troops for the same cost as 2x Poison. Either that or a more defensive/team build with Gold Hull as 2nd major item. Also, upgrade Poison Magic, in most cases you'll have them until the end of the game and it pays off. But I guess this mostly comes down to what you prefer playing with.
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Equiem Wrote:6th: The build you used has a lot of flaws. If you're going aggressive like fairly early Poison Magic usually means, its better to go Poison -> Teleport -> Troops for the same cost as 2x Poison. Either that or a more defensive/team build with Gold Hull as 2nd major item. Also, upgrade Poison Magic, in most cases you'll have them until the end of the game and it pays off. But I guess this mostly comes down to what you prefer playing with.
I think getting poison before teleporter is a mistake in general (except with antigrav probably). A poison without the mobility is useless. Mobility without poison is already very strong.
Equiem Wrote:6th: The build you used has a lot of flaws. If you're going aggressive like fairly early Poison Magic usually means, its better to go Poison -> Teleport -> Troops for the same cost as 2x Poison. Either that or a more defensive/team build with Gold Hull as 2nd major item. Also, upgrade Poison Magic, in most cases you'll have them until the end of the game and it pays off. But I guess this mostly comes down to what you prefer playing with.
I think getting poison before teleporter is a mistake in general (except with antigrav probably). A poison without the mobility is useless. Mobility without poison is already very strong.
i think its the decision of the player, but i would agree with prog at this point
equiem too your/my second point i was wondering why you died so noobie in some cases^^ anyway you were the best player at the end of the game
greetz
Equiem Wrote:6th: The build you used has a lot of flaws. If you're going aggressive like fairly early Poison Magic usually means, its better to go Poison -> Teleport -> Troops for the same cost as 2x Poison. Either that or a more defensive/team build with Gold Hull as 2nd major item. Also, upgrade Poison Magic, in most cases you'll have them until the end of the game and it pays off. But I guess this mostly comes down to what you prefer playing with.
I think getting poison before teleporter is a mistake in general (except with antigrav probably). A poison without the mobility is useless. Mobility without poison is already very strong.
Somewhat agree. In this case I dont think a teleporter would have been a good choice over poison after a very long grind with 2 non-upgraded Basic Magic at the 20th minute. His farming would be zero or close to zero over the next 10 minutes with that setup. In another game it might have been the better choice but here I doubt it. I know this wasnt your point but I would just like to point that out
ArGoLi Wrote:i think its the decision of the player, but i would agree with prog at this point
equiem too your/my second point i was wondering why you died so noobie in some cases^^ anyway you were the best player at the end of the game
greetz
In my defence I was on the phone the first 10 minutes. Some seriously pro skill usage... :roll:
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go random tank by pushing "r"
